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CBYGUO, Yes I know the death of 3 chinese excited the nationalists. I bet your government loved to see 3 chinese killed so they can use it to distract public from thinking about how bad their government is.
A Jones
UK - Friday, June 25, 1999 at 02:03:29 (CDT)

Dear Jone Now the war ended,What happended in the Kosovo?the KLA expeled the Serbian,killed them and burnt their house, the repay is very cruel.Did it the result of the NATO?I don¡&hibar;t know whether it meant the humanright belong to the friend of NATO,but no the Serb,no the weak. I believe that our report something is one-side and biase.But I beileve every country has its own benifit sometime has to do somthing unreasonable.When your media report what happend in Kosovo.There also something were ignored and disturbed.Did you heard from your media that how angry our Chinese are ,west media always said the protest activity is organized by Chinese government, this kind of report is false.Do you know?The death of Chinese excited the nationalism of Chinese and made every Chinese believe that the west is our foe.The government cann¡&hibar;t own such force to make us take an active part in the protest activity. I don¡&hibar;t want to quarrel with you because I believe you are a honest and goodness man. On the other side you don¡&hibar;t comprehend Chinese and Chinese history.We wre bullied by so many country including UK for our underdevelopment so we show very sensitivity to the interfering from outside world to our country.
cbyguo
fuzhou, P,R,CHINA - Wednesday, June 23, 1999 at 09:04:36 (CDT)
As someone who regretably is only learning about Mr. Milosevic, and his extremenist policies and practices now, what forces exist in Serbia today to replace this example, and create a new non-violent, non-nationalist, multi-cultural politics for the people of this region tomorrow. Or am I just California dreaming? I guess I'd just like to know which groups in Serbia are fighting against the use of a cheap and violent nationalism as a justification for the murder. I know about NATO, but I trust one can be anti-violence in both cases.
Bob Callahan <dkhotel@lmi.net>
Berkeley, CA USA - Saturday, June 19, 1999 at 19:28:39 (CDT)
CBYGUO, On tonight's news report of Serb atrocities being on a far worse scale than thought. Example, House emptied by Serb police, 56 civillians inc.children herded in, then hand grenade thrown in then police finish off survivors with guns. So much blood that it ran down the walls into a pool covering the cellar floor. This is one of hundreds of similiar incidents. Do you really think NATO was wrong to stop this tyranny ? Are you a true Christian ?
A Jones
UK - Friday, June 18, 1999 at 01:59:35 (CDT)
CBYGUO, Let me say no one wanted to see the three chinese killed. I am afraid military action to stop catastrophe cannot avoid innocent deaths. These were accidental though you should know any life lost is sad whether Chinese or not. Serbs have commited 100 massacres. NATO troops now finding the real truth.. Please visit sites like http://www.msnbc.com/news/280968.asp. and http://news.bbc.co.uk/ When you talk of human rights you should find out more about Tibet. Why should they put up with Chinese rule if they do not want it. Film of monks proves. Buddist monks do not attack people they are pacifists. They were beaten up by Chinese army. It is time you were honest about Chinese government.
A Jones
UK - Thursday, June 17, 1999 at 17:23:45 (CDT)
Hello,JONE I can tell that all Chinese feel sad for the dead on the 89 incident,But can't only the government's fault.Some leaders of students must share the responsibility for the offence.under such affairs,a government has right to use all kinds accessful methods to keep the society stable. The second ,if some one kill your landsman barbarious and deliberately,of course you will feel angry.Chinese reporter had nothing to do with the Kosovot conflict,NATO bombed and killed them was savage and unwise.It also wounded every one's heart for it related the dignity and sovereignty of our country.Untill now NATO hasn't premise creditable reason for the incident. Chinese reporters' death were different from the deaths of Kosovo men because they wre Chinese..The NATO bombed not only killed the Chinese,but also bombed Chinese in heart. Can you understand this ethos of Chinese? China is a great country for her population,land and so much social problem.You can't analyse in simple.Our development of country need democracy system.We also long for the democracy and hope the adopting of the democrasy can make our country rich and strong,but the democracy isn't the all,China has her situation and character.West democrasy model isn't fit for China. Many Chinese are looking for this way .The most important thing we don't need anyone else for outside to teach how can we do or what we must do.Beyond all doubt for a sovereignty state the sovereignty exceed the humanright. By the I tell you I am not a communist and I don't believe the communism. I am a christian and I love my country,I hate the all filthy taking place in my country,there are indeed a number of evil officals in our country and there is still lack of way to cope with them and put them into the prison.But I belive the god is fair,everyone must repay for all thing they had done.
cbyguo <cbyguo@ihw.com.cn>
fuzhou, P,R,CHINA - Thursday, June 17, 1999 at 08:52:01 (CDT)
Hej, sta vam je ljudi? Sad sam prvi put posetila ovaj sajt...Ne mogu da verujem da ima toliko mrznje medu vama...Jel vi ZIVITE, jer JOS NEKO treba da ZIVI....samo mrznja... Mogi su nestali u ovom ratu, mnogi su iznevereni, mnogi su izgubili svoje najmilije....i svoje prijatelje...I niko ne zna dokle ce da traje...Ako kod nas prestane, pocece negde na nekom drugom mestu.... LJUDI, povratite se SVI smo mi izmanipulisana MASA... Trgnite se, razmislite Sta to bese prijateljstvo, zezanje, REC UTEHE?
Svetlana
suisse - Tuesday, June 15, 1999 at 17:12:21 (CDT)
Hello cbyguo, Why have you not said anything about pro democracy students killed in Bejing by your government. What do you have to say about it. Which are the richest parts of China ? Answer, the parts that have most Western influence. How many political parties have you that you can vote for ? Answer, One. Why do you worry about three Chinese killed but not about tens of thousands of Kosovars butchered by Serbs. Answer you are brainwashed by state controlled media.
A Jones
UK - Tuesday, June 15, 1999 at 13:26:03 (CDT)
Hello Jone,I believed what you said is true,but can you affirm what had the monker done before the Chinese soider basted him.Our reporter told us that Under the abetment of some foreiger The Tibetian monker attacked our soliders with stone and other things.But for the substain of outside world above the west ,the Tibetian wound be aggressive so much.If some one believe that that intrusion from outside can make us change our mind of keeping our country united,He will make a mistake. China isn't the Yugoslavia,Nothing can encumber us and no can defeat us.Now China is the country one century ago,Chinese never forget the history of being invaded by the west above all UK.,also we never forget that last month NATO bombed our embassy and killed our reporter,The crime must use the flood to repay.
cbyguo <cbyguo@ihw.com.cn>
FUZHOU, P,R,CHINA - Tuesday, June 15, 1999 at 08:49:08 (CDT)
Wishing you all the best after the stopping of the air attacks. Peace is a wonderful thing, Democratic goods are also beautiful and should be kept with love and care. Comunism is in the ground not a bad idea, however it is the way a small group of people are depending what is happening in that idea. If this is what Karl Marx mentioned it is a base which could be to small to live in. Why can't every living human just tell what (s)he feels and thinks without any fear for other people who don't like these ideas. Wishing you all the best in the coming time which could be hard times because your gouverment today does not want to cher power easely. And why can't the people in the Balkan live together. Ervery one has the right to be there. With love Peter
Peter <zhendy@bigfoot.com>
Bleiswijk, ZH Netherlands - Monday, June 14, 1999 at 17:00:57 (CDT)
by your language it's you.. you make it sound like the Serbs are the only ones that have done wrong what about the croats that killed ppl and kicked them out of their homes or the kla that killed serb police? You only give one sided examples open your eyes to EVERYTHING that is going on maybe them you won't sound so hypocritical.
TCK
SYDNEY, NSW AUSTRALIA - Friday, June 11, 1999 at 17:25:01 (CDT)
Keep on going, with being independant and giving the inside few on the problems that Milosevic creates.
Jasper <j.i.d.c@worldonline.nl>
Eindhoven, Holland - Friday, June 11, 1999 at 13:56:14 (CDT)
Power to the people!!! Why don't you just shoot that filty bag off s***,Milosovic??? Anyway,the war is almost over now,so i say it again: POWER TO THE PEOPLe
Boris
Hilversum, Holland - Friday, June 11, 1999 at 13:34:53 (CDT)
Have a look at you last comment: "what should be done to them" - What are you trying to say? NOTHING SHOULD BE DONE TO THEM, don't you think the serbs have done enough to the poor people? Do you have NO heart? Why does something always have to be "done" to someone in your eyes? You are such a paranoid people! Dirty and fithly! I have been to Serbia and have heard the way you people talk - FILTHY! You are a strange people, I'll NEVER figure you out!
FREEDOM
USA - Wednesday, June 09, 1999 at 18:46:57 (CDT)
TO TCK AND ALL OTHER SERBS WHO Won't even TRY to see what is happening! It's all so pathetic! Why can't you admit you are WRONG! There are NO good excuses for what is happening in Kosova! NONE! It is all so very simple to understand! Greed, money, power = Land! Why can't you SEE what the serb soldiers are doing!???? Why do you choose to be blind, and ignorant?
FREEDOM
USA - Wednesday, June 09, 1999 at 18:41:32 (CDT)
A question for you TCK, what should be done to the Serbs that tried to take what didn't' belong to them (ie. Bosnia/Hercegovina, Croatia, Slovenia)????? Do you beleive it is right to BUTCHER people the way the Serbs do for LAND? Do you???? You are a GREADY race! Along with SICK and psycho!
FREEDOM
- Wednesday, June 09, 1999 at 18:38:25 (CDT)
FREEDOM.. Well the Albanians are trying to take something that belongs to Serbia, What should be done to them??
TCK
SYDNEY, NSW AUSTRALIA - Wednesday, June 09, 1999 at 16:40:06 (CDT)
PS cbyguo, Incidently Scotland does not belong to UK and we don't go up there beating them up. We do not rule with iron fist unlike those nasty old men clinging to power in Bejing.
A Jones
UK - Tuesday, June 08, 1999 at 12:25:30 (CDT)
cbyguo, I have seen video of chinese soldiers beating up Tibetan Monks. You live in a state of controlled media. This is video you will never be allowed to see. Your government killed pro democracy students in Tiananmen square. Many Tibetans have had to flee from Chinese tyranny by walking through freezing mountains. If Chinese rule is so good why does the Dali Lama of Tibet have to live in exile. By the way Scotland has just aquired it's own Parliament.
A Jones
UK - Tuesday, June 08, 1999 at 12:16:09 (CDT)
Dear,Jone.Do remember that the Tibet belong to China just like Scolan belonging to UK,the Tibet are also Chinese.For a long time they enjoy their lives peaceful,It was your country invaded Tibet and destroy the peace lives.It is also your country always abet they to break away from our country and also make up all kinds sentsational new.The Tibet population is only two million,but some politician even said that China had killed about four millions Tibet people.Some one always said that China robbed million dolar from Tibet annully.But government take nothing from Tibet, indeed our government assist at least five milliom dolars to Tibet every year.What your reporter or politician talking about our system to Tibet is full of lies and bias. our system to
cbyguo <cbyguo@ihw.com.cn>
China - Tuesday, June 08, 1999 at 08:21:39 (CDT)
What the HELL are you talking about? Croats did NOTHING to Serbs - NOTHING THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR!!! They came to OUR country to fight! We WON the elections fair and square - we won our democracy, and the serbs wouldn't allow it! They didn't want us to govern our own country! They fought against US, they sent troops and tanks from Beograd to kill US! They started it! They came to kill US! They butchered and raped our women and children! Just as they are doing in Kosova, just like they did in Bosna! SO don't give me that crap about what Croats did to serbs!!! Remember Vukovar! Who butchered who? Who came into who's country and tried to KILL and take over?
FREEDOM
- Monday, June 07, 1999 at 17:50:11 (CDT)
Dear cbyguo in China, No its not nice what Croats did to Serbs and Its not nice what Chinese have done to Tibetans or Nepalese. Destroying their monastries and colonising their land.
A Jones
UK - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 16:08:22 (CDT)
First I believe that NATO bombing Yugoslavia is crime.They interfere a indenpend country's right and kill so many people,How can they explain the humanright,Serbian are like other people in the world and also have their right to enjoy a peace life.Nato also sail the holocaust making by serbia,but awlays neglect the crime making by other people such as Cloatian and Arbania.In 1995,the Croatian drove about three hundred thousands serbia from their hamlet,It see that there no one show interesting about this incident.Was it fair?
cbyguo <cbyguo@ihw.com.cn>
fuzhou, USA - Monday, June 07, 1999 at 04:46:18 (CDT)
KISA PADA KISA PADA SRBIJA PROPADA!
FREEDOM
- Thursday, June 03, 1999 at 00:06:38 (CDT)
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Belgrade, SR FR Yugoslavia - Wednesday, June 02, 1999 at 09:05:14 (CDT)

nikad neche ce pridava!
svetlana
Sydney, NSW Australia - Monday, May 31, 1999 at 00:25:50 (CDT)
The law is an ass.
A Jones
UK - Saturday, May 22, 1999 at 07:22:04 (CDT)
But Law is Law
Alex Fisher
St.Peterburg, Russia - Saturday, May 22, 1999 at 04:45:15 (CDT)
PS Alex & Inne Fisher, I just noticed your comment about UN resolution. One million people were slaughtered in Rwanda while UN beaurocrats sat in 5 star hotels talking. If Kosovans wait for UN resolution there would be no Kosovans left alive by the time they got it.
A Jones
UK - Friday, May 21, 1999 at 19:42:31 (CDT)
Dear Alex and Inne Fisher, Firstly you are not bigotts you are people who take a thoughtfull concern about the well being of mankind. You say West should have helped 50 million repressions by communists for their phantom idea in Russia, but to do so would have contravened your views on interfering with legitimate governments. Many many British merchant seamen froze to death in the icy waters when their ships were sunk by German Navy while enroute to Murmansk with provisions for Russia in WW2. The wages to their widows were stopped by the British government the day there ships sank. They were treated like s*** by our government and now they get no thanks from you. I am sorry for these young men that died and that you are only critical of their efforts. They gave their lives but that appears is not enough for you. Who told you that British navy ships deserted your Russian ships when there were signs of Germans how sure can you be this is true ? Of course we were allies for reasons of mutual benefit. Isn't that true for all partnerships, including even marriage. To open a second front sooner than 1944 would have been very risky. There was a chance that even in 1944 it may have failed because of the strength of the German army and its strategic advantage. Britain could not possibly have done so without the US who did not enter the war until 1941 or 42 & it takes time to train & prepare for such an enormous task. With the risks involved in sending hundreds of thousands of men across the sea to land in heavily defended country. What was Stalin doing all this time. He had decimated the red army as he saw their generals as a threat to him. He had buried his head in the sand. Hitlers men were defeated by your winter weather as much as what was left of your army after Stalin had finished with it. How can you say Serbia is a legal government when they have torched the homes of a million people in Kosovo. I really do not believe you are getting all the facts about what is going on. When there was a peace march of all groups united croats muslims and ordinary Serbs in Sarayevo in Bosnia, Dr Karadic the leader of the Bosnian Serbs placed snipers to shoot the peace marchers and fled to the hills around Sarayevo to join the Serb artillary shelling the city. You say NATO should not have ground troops in Kosovo so the refugees can go home. This means you think one million refugees sitting in tents in refugee camps should stay there and freeze to death when winter comes in five months time. Why should they not be free to return to their homes ? I suspect you have not been shown the refugee camps and not been informed of the enormous scale of the problem. It is the worst humanitarian disaster in Europe snce WW2. You believe it is a phantom disaster ?! Why do you think NATO is trying to impose a world order when its mission is humanitarian and it wants to include Russia in supervising Kosovo. As I have said though the NATO bombing is getting out of hand. You make generalisations when you say "american soldiers are brave only in Hollywood films". More american soldiers died in the D day landings than any others. It seems to me there were many brave American soldiers in WW2 especially in the very difficult pacific campaign. When you make such generalisations you show no respect for the dead. There are heroes and cowards in any army whether from East or West. You are correct to say war is a waste of time, but there would be no wars if people did not make generalisations. Most wars can be narrowed down to a lot of evil old men who should know better than to lead young men to their deaths, like the conscripted young men in Iran Iraq war, conscripted young Americans in Vietnam, conscripted young Russians in Afganistan or Chechnia, even conscripted young Serbs in Kosovo. At least we agree on one thing that peace is better than war so there is hope. The only thing is that pacifism only works if everyone is a pacifist. Regards A Jones
A Jones
UK - Friday, May 21, 1999 at 19:22:30 (CDT)
Dear Mr. Jones. I do believe: the solution of Serbian problem must be a non-linear. Genocide, fascism, communism, racism and other pathology of human society have a very deep and very fractalised roots. If we'll be guided only by the emotions and the subjective opinion, we'll get in result an indistinct abstraction instead of the clear solution. But a military pressing is not the solution for this thing. If we'll press on abscess, then we'll get a blood poisoning only. If NATO will drop out all of Yugoslavia economic and life-support object - then we'll get a real humanitarian catastrophe. We are have one example for now - it is Chechnya. Look at this country! May be a Kosovan will get Kosovo at the end, but it will be an unusable ruin. Do you wish this? Why? Are you count, that if Kosovan will get destroyed Kosovo, they became the peaceful ones? I don't think so. Yes, I don't "believe", that Kosovan leave Kosovo by a NATO bombs only. There are a multiple reasons for this, I think. May be, I don't see any Kosovan men of fighting age because they figting against Serbs army in this time? In other case - who is the ranks of the KLA? Fantoms? Now, about terrorists...It is not correct - compare Russian fight against Hitler and fighting KLA against Serbs. Too different "input data" for this exercise... Each, who fight against legal government with weapon - is a terrorist. Is it right? Russia is a LEGAL country. And Russian people was not fighning with our government. Russian people in WW2 fight by their own weapon. Russian people don't used the money that was received from a criminal operations and by drug selling in other countries, and not mercenarised any fighter for this fight. We was fighting against aggressor, who was invaded to our territory from other land. We defended our own Homeland - Russia, and our government. And I don't think, that UK and US were ally with Russia, if Germany turned their power against a Communists Russia only. May be it was ally for Hitler in that case, who know? (By the way, according to the information about current events, the casualties of Russian people in WW2 was not 20.000.000, but was 47.000.000 men. And our brave allyes opened a second front only in 1944 year. Very interest, why? And I'm very interested so, how much English - Russian marine convoys with the military help for Russia was downed by german submarins and bombers? And how much arrived to Russia? (Russian cargo ships in this project must be defended by English military ships, but this defenders very quickly skipped if only notice any german bomber or submarine. It is a historical fact.) Really, it was a good alliance for Russia!) In any case, if Albanian territory was occupied by Serbia - It is the right of Albania to begin War against Serbia, but not is the right of undefined group of terrorists, who named themseves "KLA" and who murder a LEGAL serbian polices and fight against LEGAL Serbian government. We are living at end of twentieth century. If Albanian have a problem with Serbaian government - there is the UN cabinet, who have a special court for solution this problem. Have you a resolution of this court, that Kosovo is a property of Albanians? Have the court any petition by Albanian government about occupation Kosovo by Serbia? I don't find any information about this in Internet. And I say: NATO support the terrorists. And NATO is conducting itself as terrorists and aggressors in this case, because it making a war on Yugoslavian territory, without UN resolution. NATO is a military alliance only, but not a diplomatic force, like as UN. Yugoslavia was not attack any of members of NATO. Why NATO attack Yugoslavia? If KLA is ally of NATO for now, what is the country named KLA? Where is KLA government and the KLA territory and borders? May be NATO will be able to ally with Kurds, break their alliance with Turkey and drop out it's territory? May be, so, NATO will be allianced with any other small group of men or women for solution their life problem? Why NATO will be able to ally with Community of Insect-Lover for example. And drop out a home of anyone, who hurt flies feelings? Really, why not? Come on! OK, if Milosevic and his covernment is break the humans rights and lead with wrong ethnical politics, don't you think, that there is the right of Serbian people to change their Leader, but it is not the right of NATO chief or commandeers? Any people be worthy of their leader. It is their own experience. And it is their own life. Nobody must change this order. What we have in Yugoslavia now? A discrepant political forces was united by NATO aggression in Yugoslavia. You get a monolithic rebuff to aggression from all political forces of Yugoslavia and get a split in NATO allians, instead of a condemnation of Milosevic. Even I. Rugova, leader of Kosovan, do not support this aggression. Look, how NATO changes it's plans, and get salience about "ground troop" action. That bloody and maniacal plan of "third phase", which meen the all-destruction of this intractable country both with its people, is not supported by "vast majority" members of the NATO members. Prolongation of this senseless war - is nonsense! And I believe, that Russia will never ally for NATO with their aggressive, expansion and paranoic plans of power over the World. But it is doesn't mind, that Russia and Russian people will be not able for the alliance to any country, that wish to bring peace and harmony for all over the World.
Alex Fisher
St.Peterburg, Russia - Friday, May 21, 1999 at 02:26:26 (CDT)
Respected Mr. Jones! I'm observing with the great interest your Internet dialog with my husband, Alex. I mention with pleasure that you have very rare for the Westmen feature of character: you're able to change your mind under an influence of new facts, and you're not afraid to show it. I've read your message dated May 19, and feel a need to type you myself. The reason is the following: I want to make things clear, because it seems to me, that you don't catch the main point in our report about medias. Let me, please, interpret to you, how we actually treat to the medias (ours or yours - it doesn't mean). You know, that a point of view of anyone is the summ of different factors. Such as - national traditions, personal interests or/and profits, the degree of individual involving into either events, habits of mind, style of minding formed by native language and peculiarity of the national history. Your last message illustrate this very well. Me too is not an exclusion from this rule. According to the rule, you've got used to trust your medias since your childhood. We are (Russians) since our childhoods have a contrary mind habit. When we get a report about something, which emanates from any officials, we, without regard to words and phrases, start to seek a background of this report. We always read between the lines. It goes automatically. It is our genetic habit. So, you unjystly blame us that we follow our medias. The ones exactly show us the miserable Alban refugees and they show almost nothing about Serbes. So, you and we have been shown the same, and with almost the same commentaries! But you're - trust, we're - meditate. That is the difference. You, as a journalist, know very well, that a commentary can change the sense of any fact, as well as a fact which was extracted from it's context, can demonstrate nothing of the kind of a whole event. It's a law of any propagand (we, Russians, become skilled in such the things: our medias for 80 years (and more) feed us with absolutely s***; and as to you - you have no similiar experience, so, you're swallow the bait). Who is right and who is not right in a war? Of course, an agressor is not right, and a protector is right: that is a universally recognized point of view, isn't it? Who is an agressor? - That one, who comes from anywhere to capture something not belonging to him. Who is a protector? - That one, who tryes not to give away somethig native. Do you agree with these assertions? Or not? So, who is Serbians in this war? Who is Albanians? Who in NATO? Therefore your utterance about WW2 are misplaced. You've obviously studied history as an abstract discipline (but for justice it must be mentioned that you study it with interest nevertheless). In particular for me - history is not an abstraction. It is the life. By the way, we are not victims of somebody, because no one can oppressed a human untill he wants it himself. If we (Russians) have the History we have, then we wanted to have it. At long last, if americans gave adventures of their gangsters and genocide against Indians out to be their History, why not we can be proud of our gained-while-History capability to put up with any government? There are different Historical experiences in the World (one else example: Britons became able to excuse themselves in any life situations, and not to themselves only, but also to any other people. It's good and comfortable capability. It's pleasant to be always right, isn't it?). So, if we (Alex or me) write about communist repressions, it means only an establishment of the historical fact, nothing more. We have no complexes connected with such the facts. A human feels pain up to a some moment, if there is too much of it, the human stop to feel anything. He becomes stronger, and that is all. We call this a "mental stability". As regards to Serbian war - once more - who is an agressor and who is a protector? Is it evident or not, what do you think? Whom the Serbian territory belongs to? Or may be you guess that Kosovo is not a part of Serbian territory? Imagine the following, please: somebody poor and miserable knock to the door of your appartment. You feel sorry for him and admit him into your house. You've gave him roof and food. Then he brings his family to your house. They begin to live according only to their habits, and ignor you. Finally, they began to defecate in YOUR hall and drive out YOURSELF. What do you undertake in such a situation? Do you leave YOUR house? Please, don't tell me that you immediately call for the police. Imagin, that the police comes to your appartments without your calling. It comes, and, instead of protecting YOU from your impudent "guests", begin to beat you and to prosecute you in unhumanity. How you shall apprehend THIS? But the history of relationship between Serbians and Albanians formed in that way namely. And namely in that way Albanians behaved themselves in Serbia. What choice, tell me please, had Serbians in this situation?! And then - comes NATO-"police" in spite of lack of calling them there by anybody, and begin to punish everyone, because it cannot punish guilty for it cannot find them (may be, their secret servises have lost their art; and may be - they do not want to find that ones). Apropos, how many civil Albanians was killed by NATO bombs? Have you ever thought about it? The one thing is absolutely clear, however: president Milosovich and Serbian people is making by NATO propaganda the scapegoats. Think: to whom is profitable such the things stand? To you? To me? To UK? To Russia? To Mankind? Or to whom? I suppose, it is profitable only to USA. This country worries very much about its dollar, and it doesn't like strong EVRO. So, it forces European countries to participate in the war using ordinary method of appealing to the sences of kind Europeans on the occasion of mythical "humanitarian catactroph" (by the way, an analogous "h. c.", for example, take place in UK - I mean the Northen Ireland problem). Also USA demands from its allyes (NATO) to meet their ally engagements. They realize very well, that an "ethnical bomb" - Albanian refugees - will weak Europe. Don't you think, that Albanians will behave themselves in Europe differently, that they did it in Serbia? America knows very well, that it has a greate weakness: american solgiers are brave only in Hollywood films. Be curious about the WW2 history, and you find the examples. So, yanky prefere to provide their personal profits by making a cat's-paw out off the others. At the begining of the century it was russian revolutionaryes-bolsheviks. Then - the german nazists. Now it is Europian countries - NATO members. Especially UK. Remember, how the WW2 finished for the UK: it stop to be the Greate Imperia. Remember also the results of the WW1: two Greate Imperias died - Russia and Germany. Have the USA got profit from all this? - Of course, it have. Serbian war is the debut of USA as the only Greate Imperia in the World. I don't think, that it is good for Europe, because USA needs vassals, not partners. The facts are lead to the deduction. And the facts are stubborn things. You can't get away from them, of course, if you enough courageous to realise them. The Serbian war - is the disaster for everyone, for USA too, even if it doesn't understand that. The Serbian war is the case, when both sides are not absolutely right. In such the cases each human choose the side which is more closer to him. Besides, President Milosovich is more right than NATO is. And, as a conclusion, I want to say: THE WAR - IS A BAD WAY OF SPENDING TIME in any case. But - it's better to die free, than to be an alive slave, if there is no alternative. So, my heart stands with free Serbia, while my brains are occupied with analysis. How do you feel, dear Mr. Jones, am I a biggot?
Inne Fisher
St.Peterburg, Russia - Friday, May 21, 1999 at 02:10:26 (CDT)
trails of refugees are leaving Kosovo because of NATO. You really have been hoodwinked by your state controlled media if you do. The million or so refugees have been ethnically cleansed by the Serbs. If you are shown the refugees on TV look how few men of fighting age there are. They have been executed by the Serbs. There are now about 220,000 men missing. When you talk about the KLA terrorists what do you mean ? If you took up arms to stop your people being slaughtered or your women from being raped would you be called a terrorist ? Were your Russain troops stopping the Nazi Waffen SS tyranny in WW2 terrorists ? No they were not and neither are the KLA so do not believe your state controlled media lies. NATO does not wish to occupy Serbia it simply wants the refugees to be allowed to return to their homes in Kosovo. NATO has no territorial designs on Kosovo its mission is humanitarian but as I admit its bombing is getting too clumsy and it makes me sick to see the poor victims on either side in this conflict. But the Serbs are behaving like the Nazi S.S. did in Russia. They have killed a thousand times as many people as NATO has. In healthy societies Murderers and rapists are locked in prison but in Serbia they give them guns and let them free. Did you know Arkan a leader of Serb death squads recruits his killers from prisons in Serbia and by the way don't doubt the 350,000 killed in Bosnia the figures are correct and they too were as you say, real bodies of ordinary citizens. Ordinary human bodies. Bodies, which were ordinary humans - workers and engineers, husbands and wives, children and old men.. The slaughter was not stopped in Bosnia and Croatia until NATO intervened. It is just very unfortunate that this time the action has backfired and Milosovic's men have gone into a feeding frenzy a blitzcreeg like the S.S. Russia and Britain and US were allies against Hitler we should now be allies against Milosovic. You talk of aggressive Albanian terrorists, well all we see is hard working peasant farmers on their tractors who just wanted to earn an honest living farming and living in peace in their beautiful villages until the Serb Butchers decided to give them the Waffen S.S. treatment. Now there lives are turned into hell. They were ordinary peaceloving people just like most people in the world whether in East or West. Frankly unless you cannot be open minded to the possibility that you simply do not have all the facts because you do not have free media, there is no point in any further debate. If a man has been told the world is flat for long enough he will eventually believe it and no amount of arguing with him will change his view then there is no point in arguing with him. I am not being critical of your inteligence I just think you have been told too many lies for too long. You are still suffering the after effects of the Lenin, Stalin and Brechnev era. As I have made clear to you we are shown both sides of the story. Anyone were I live in England can be a journalist and be free to say what they want. You mentioned the over 50.000.000 humans was sacrificed in repressions by communists for their phantom idea in Russia, but how could the West help without starting world war three ? Best wishes
A Jones
UK - Wednesday, May 19, 1999 at 16:29:08 (CDT)
PS. "The 20 million Russian war" should be "the 20 million Russian war dead killed by the Nazis" sorry about my typing error.
A Jones
UK - Wednesday, May 19, 1999 at 14:36:37 (CDT)
Dear Mr Alex Fisher, Frankly I think NATO is going too far. On BBC news tonight they showed a factory in Kosovo flattened by a NATO bomb and some civilians were killed also. How that is supposed to help the Kosovans I do not know. However I think force sometimes has to be used. If Russia had not used force against Hitler the 20 million Russian war might have been 500 million instead. I think NATO bombing is getting out of hand. The only answer is ground troops including Russian troops to stop the genocide. All nations should rise above nationalism and form a worldwide police force to stop this and Rwanda and Pol Pot and East Timor and all the places made into hell holes by nasty nationalistic dictators. As far as East Timor goes there is not much chance of that with UK companies selling arms to Indonesia. You see I can be honest about the West, and we are shown the bad side of NATO bombing on our TV. A major help to mankind is if we are well informed and honest and not nationalist biggots, though do not get me wrong I do not think you are a biggot. Best Wishes from A Jones
A Jones
UK - Wednesday, May 19, 1999 at 14:31:43 (CDT)
Dear Mr. Jones! Really, I'm only a smallest part of this victim. The other, biggest part of this victim is the WORLD. NATO play the dangerous games. To cure the "humanitarian catastrophe" with a cassette bombs? To do that with rivers of refugees? To transform civilian humans to dead bodies and parts of dead bodies by NATO missiles - is it lovely solution for this puzzle? For what? For a NEW ORDER in the World? But the World transforms not by NATO or American ambitions, but by the HISTORICAL law. And NATO is not the God for changing this order. Do you find that a killing of humans - is a permanent solution to a Serbia problem? Shaking by the Fists - is a very bad politics. The Blood - is a very bad solution to any problem. Where was "the vast majority of Americans or Europeans", when over 50.000.000 humans was sacrificed in repressions by communists for their phantom idea in Russia? "The vast majority of Americans or Europeans" was counted their profit into their banks, which was received from the robbery Russia. And now this "majority" transforms into a humanists. Oh! Milosevic is a Hitler! Its too bad! He's - evil! The 350.000 people was murdered - it's so terrible! Come on! In this case, we need to kill somebody else. May be, Milosevic, for example? Or to murder stone-blind Yugoslavian people by wonderful NATO bombs and our genius and noble soldier. Yes! Why not? And "The vast majority of Americans or Europeans" close their eyes now, while NATO aircrafts drop out mostly CIVIL and ECONOMIC structures. (It is more easy for them, than to bomb small camouflage military objects, which are able to return fire, in addition). Why NATO wishes to punish ANY citizen of Yugoslavia? O, yeah - it is a good lesson for this evil man! - you think so. OK. Some question now. Why NATO is, in fact, a big and strong ally of KLA in TOTAL aggressive war against YUGOSLAVIA? Is KLA a really NATO's ally in the war against Yugoslavia? Is it the ally, that purchase their weapons by dirty drug money? Is it the ally, that finances it's army of terrorists and mercenaries in the entire world with this dirty money? O, yes! This is, really, a GOOD ally for the NATO! Yes, I know nothing about 350.000 mythic bodies, the "victims of ethnical cleaning". I don't saw any of them. (And I know very well, how is possible to cook such a bubblegum with a method of "boiling of s***."). But I've seen the other bodies - real bodies of ordinary citizens. Ordinary human bodies. Bodies, which were ordinary humans - workers and engineers, husbands and wives, children and old men. They were not believe in the WAR, and not "butchering" any of this "victims of ethnical cleaning". They was only thought, that they were lived upon peaceful sky at the end of twentieth century. All of them was killed by pilots of NATO. They were the simply human beings. For WHAT?! For a punishment of Milosevic? And were are you see a "free press"? May be, it is free from the honor and honesty? I don't believe TV and press, because they are working for money, but not for truth. I don't know, how many Serbian soldiers was killed in conflict by KLA. I believe that it was not one hundred men. May be thousands too. And now? How many NATO planes was shooted down by Serbian ant-aircraft systems? Nothing? One? And about NATO AWACS-plane? Nothing again? How many anti-aircraft systems or any other military objects were destroyed by NATO? Nothing? You see, that truth - is a very comparative term. There is a double standard for description of the allies or enemy, the big lie, the grave salience and other dirty tricks using for manipulations with public opinion. But you must look at the roots of facts. Yes, Serbs is a not the angels. May be Milosevic is the other Stalin. BUT Yugoslavia is OFFICIAL, sovereign country with legitimate government. What is KLA? Have it legitimate government or an other democratic structure? Or is it only a bandit military group, who killed serbian polices and who fight against legal government? Why the government of Yugoslavia must make a compromise with this gang, if the ones don't wish to disarm their bands, but wish to live on serbian territory? (Why this "ally" escape from "their" Kosovo without fight now? Because living in (for example) London, or New York, or Melbourne is more smart for them. Yes! They are the great patriots! It is very patriotically to write from Australia by Internet "Serbian bustards get out..." and bragging about their good fortune and fat life...) Because they are an ally of NATO? Real problem of Yugoslavia is not a "humanitarian catastrophe", but the civil war. And NATO in this war is ally not for legitimate government, but of a criminal structure with big aggressive ambitions. Why? Which order is NATO supporting? Is there not enough Albanian terrorists in the World for you? May be, the ethnical politics of Milosevic is wrong. But the bombs are killing bodies, not ideology. In any case, if namely Milosevic and his cabinet is a "bad guys", why NATO kills any other citizens? ANY other men, women, children? Is it necessary? If NATO or UN don't seeking justice on Milosevic, why any other men must die? Because Serbians are supporting their own Serbian government? And which government must be supported by them? KLA? UK? Or US? This PEACEHACKER action is not a solution, but it is only a bloody Big Fists Show by NATO and cabinet of Bill Clinton. It is very dangerous thing for peace in the World. So as their popular song " WAR MUST GO ON" too. About "ground troop action"... Sorry? May be Serbian citizens will be able to admire on the NATO soldiers like the flowers, since NATO dropped out their native Home? I don't think so. NATO will get something more terrible, than the Vietnam war in this case. Serbian army is army of professional modern warriors with wide knowledge and experience of war and using of modern weapons. And this army will defend their own Homeland. It will be a damn hard action for NATO, which will entail serious MILITARY casualties, I think. In any case, NATO must think many, many times before it do begin this action. With respect, Alex Fisher.
Alex Fisher
St. Peterburg, Russia - Wednesday, May 19, 1999 at 13:43:33 (CDT)
i Bosna???? HA HA HA HA HA!!!! NECE BITI SRBIJA ZA DUGO!!!! NIKADA NECETE IMATI VELIKU SRBIJU! Cijeli svijet se vama gadi i America se na vas smije!!! Ja se na vas smijem!!!! BUDALE NAJVECE!
Dr Franjo Tudman
- Tuesday, May 18, 1999 at 18:10:56 (CDT)
KOSOVOOOOOOOOO JEEEE SRBIJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Marko Kraljevic <marko@nato.com>
Beograd, SR Yugoslavia - Tuesday, May 18, 1999 at 16:19:15 (CDT)
Dear Mr Alex Fisher, The vast majority of Americans or Europeans does not want war anymore than the vast majority of Russians do. Only madmen want war. We are all essentially the same human beings after all and we are all victims of politicians. You are a victim of someone who can't keep his hand out of the vodka cabinet and the US of someone who can't keep his pecker in his trousers. I guess perhaps you do not have free press in Russia so you are not aware of the nature of the Serbian rape & death squads. They killed 350 000 in Bosnia & Croatia and now it is believed in Kosovo they may have executed 100,000 men of fighting age & About one million people have had to flee from their homes torched by Serbs. NATO would like Russia to help in the humanitarian mission in Kosovo. If Russia would have helped end this catastrophy instead of playing with the situation as political football to deflect from troubles at home, ground troops could have been sent in sooner which would mean far less civilian casualties than caused by bombing. Its no use thinking about alliances from 50 years ago like Russia & Yugoslavia. What counts is what is the right moral thing to do now.
A Jones
UK - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 17:23:50 (CDT)
World, awake! NATO bombs not only Serbia - NATO bombs Russian hearts too! Aggression against Serbia - is a big mistake of NATO. This apprehensive PIECEMAKERS, beeing at an illusion of their worldwide power, is in reality simply a band of bloody, lying maniacs, who is guided by a wrong idea about their place in the World history. If America is hunger for a WAR - America will get the WAR, if they need it so much! There is nothing to loose for Russian people now. We live as a swine, through our corrupt politics fault. We see nothing in the future. Our army is hungry and angry. Russian innumerable missiles are waiting for the targets. Our overeat generals and politics are dreaming for a War, because they don't know, what they busy themselves with in this broken, poor, clean out country. Our nationalists and communists have a great chance in the politic fight in this conditions. The WAR will save Russia! - it is their modern secret slogan. Our military industry lose the most part of it's market, and dreams for revenge. We have quite enough military power for the war, but we have no way to control our military power now. Even high officers in Russian army have no means of subsistence. Their wives and children are hungry. Our senators lost their brains and see noting, except their own purses. Impotent government is playing political billiards. And against of background of this, we daily hear the lie on our TV about Serbia War. We are not stupid! If NATO chief thinks so, it is a second big mistake. His words about the target of this war looks like a s***! Russia looks like a weak-headed man with the big nuclear fists now. Sorry, but it's true. And it's terrible. NATO bomb not Yugoslavia, NATO bomb Russia - we think so. But the Russians don't looking for the war. We know what is the WAR. If America forget it, we story this horror in our memory up to now. But we're not afraid of the war, because each true Russian is a warrior in his heart. If NATO wishes to intimidate Russia with his stinky bomb - it's their third, and the global mistake! We will fight, if we'll be driving in a corner. And Russia is almost in this corner now! We're ashamed very much of our corrupt and impotent government. However, we believe that our people is ready to deliver over Yugoslavia the modern anti-aircraft systems for offering merited rebuff to the NATO aggressors. Now America has the great chance to stop approaching of a new all-destruction WORLD WAR yet. Just remove NATO military power from Yugoslavia. And let each people think with their own brains! DeBILLs will never play with matches! "RUSSIAN - SLAVONIC ANTIWAR FRONT"
Alex Fisher <fish@spb.cityline.ru>
St.Peterburg, Russia - Monday, May 17, 1999 at 13:04:32 (CDT)
geba <devic007@yahoo.com>
Saint Louis, MO USA - Friday, May 14, 1999 at 09:14:20 (CDT)
Ti si Srbin, SVI ZNAMO!!!! TCK i ovaj koji se zove Conroy! Smjesni ste. Kisa pada kisa pada Srbija propada! Sada svi ajmo pjevati!!!! Kisa pada Kisa pada Srbija propada!!!
Hrvoje Jugovic
- Wednesday, May 05, 1999 at 23:39:39 (CDT)
TCK OR SHOULD I CALL YOU MR CONROY??? Nice try!!! Ohh, and it doesn't bother me if you really want to be me! Use my name as much as you want. I have lost all respect for this message board. Good Bye.
DIJANA J
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA - Wednesday, May 05, 1999 at 19:06:03 (CDT)
It nice to see that some people's entries have thought behind them. I do, however, honestly sympathize for people that have the brain of a mosquito and an attitude to match, namely Dijana. Out of all the comments that I have read in this guestbook, BENJAMIN SCHWARZ and CHRISTOPHER LAYNE are the only two that have put some actual thought into what they have written. Dijana, may God forgive your ignorance and arrogance, one day, hopefully, you will realise that media and politics don't always reflect people's thoughts and ideals. And Dijana, I do believe that the Croation president (Franjo Tudman) betrayed his people the same way as the Serbian and Bosnian Presidents did, this is just the way that world leaders, especially in times of crisis, are profiting. It's nice to see that Tudman's son is the head of the police force in Croatia and has his own factories and you are telling everyone how DEMOCRATIC Croatia has become, what would happen to anyone how has a bad word to say about the president? You say free speech? More like execution or imprinsonment. Anyway young lady, you have a lot to learn about how the world of politics and propaganda works. If you stop and think for just a minute you'll see that it's not all as black and white as you and the media like to see it. So, if you stop being hypocritical and one-sided you just might learn the facts of life ONEDAY!
N. Conroy
Niagara Falls, Canada - Wednesday, May 05, 1999 at 07:14:48 (CDT)
Dear Mr Penis (TCK) How dare you threaten my desire for peace. If you keep it up, I as a lover of peace, will beat you to death with my hand bag.
DIJANA
USA - Wednesday, May 05, 1999 at 01:34:20 (CDT)
Attn: TCK :This is my last comment to you! You are an arrogant SOB who has no idea how to THINK, let alone be constructive, civil and discuss peace, you are single minded in your efforts to confront me with your vulgar attempt at a war of words (violence). You, who uses a foul "handle", I mean TCK - just lovely!(Which for those who don't read serbian means "YOU ARE A D#CK") For what it's worth it REALLY suits you! You are what my stereotype of Serbs were and you don't do much for your cause! You don't speak of peace, you use worthless and pathetic arguments and bring up useless information! None of your comments help in acheiving PEACE! You are a vile and distructive human being! I pity you!
DIJANA
USA - Tuesday, May 04, 1999 at 23:51:54 (CDT)
DIJANA.. Either we have a major communication problem or your just down right stupid. I'm opting for choice 2 myself. You can't answer 2 simple questions it's amazing especially considering you seem to think your so educated on the goings on in Kosovo, What were you there in the last 6-7 weeks to know for a FACT what's going on or have you just been watching alot of tv? Well you've proved without a doubt that you don't know what your talking about and that you don't stick by your comments, it seems you only come here to leave comments because you have nothing better to do. Unless you have something concrete to say don't say anything at all.. i know i won't be replying to your comments in future unless theres a bit of intellegance in what your saying!!
TCK
SYDNEY, NSW AUSTRALIA - Tuesday, May 04, 1999 at 22:58:11 (CDT)
Here we see below folks, Ms King revealing the true uglyness of her mind.
anon
USA - Monday, May 03, 1999 at 02:58:36 (CDT)
I was not hard to notice that the Albanians truly do believe in brotherly love, not to mention sisterly love, but there comes a time that you have to stop doing that have you ever considered mating with someone that is not a relative maybe the serbs are helping you out by splitting families up into different nations and even inpregnating a few of your less ugly women to intruduce a more varied bloodline if you do decide to leave the balkans can i recomend the southern states of america or an english council estate to make you feel at home all my love and best wishes Cathy
CATHY KING <''''''''''''''>
'''''''''', KOSOVA - Sunday, May 02, 1999 at 18:31:09 (CDT)
ATTN : TCK - You're one to talk, calling me a hypocrite! You are truley PATHETIC. Going on and on about my comments, like they mean a great deal. THIS IS NOT ABOUT CROATIA! But since you keep bringing up what the "poor" serbs suffered, I'll keep telling you that the the Serbs made the Croats suffer a GREAT deal more! Stop getting of the point you MORON! This is abot KOSOVA and what the serbian butchers are doing to these poor people! It is NOT about ownership of land! You keep bringing up these rediculous and hypocritical points about Historical ownership of land! That Kosova belongs to Serbia, but once again I ask you what was the Serbs objective in Croatia and Bosnia! Did you own that Too! You know you didn't! The serbs say that Kosova is theres and that is their excuse for slaughtering these poor albaininas! IS IT A GOOD EXCUSE??? Is it??? Will it ever be? What happens to all those serbs on the day of Gods judgement! Do you honestly think they will get away with it? That people like Arkan are "blessed" by God to save the serbs??? CCCC = Srbi Sami Sebi Seru! STOP GETTING OF THE POINT! WHY ARE THE SERBS BUTCHERING AND EXPELLING ALL THE ALBAINIANS OUT OF KOSOVA! WHY?
DIJANA
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA - Sunday, May 02, 1999 at 18:10:45 (CDT)
Think not only of Turks and Albanians as brothers. Think of the brotherhood of man.
B Thompson
UK - Sunday, May 02, 1999 at 17:49:44 (CDT)
We are always with our Albanian brothers.This is the third Kosovo War and we will win again. And KLA fights not only forthemselves but also for us(Turks).I think you must consider that how is the life living under bombs , we didn't forget what serbs did in Bosnia....
Murad Turkoglu <Murad@turk.net>
Istanbul, Of course from TURKIYE - Sunday, May 02, 1999 at 16:53:13 (CDT)
Mr Jones, re Mr Schwart & Lane, I think it is wise to consider as many facts from history as possible as have these two gentlemen. Having said that, the choices are not very appealing either way. Does the world look on and do nothing while the Serbs rape and pillage, and hope this "forest fire" burn itself out. Well its been smouldering with the occasional flare up for about 800 years so there is not much hope of that. The end result of not dealing with this particular flare up, could mean another 350,000 dead and miniature Stalin ruling Eastern Europe. In dealing with it however, NATO appears to have fanned the flames to start with. NATO can't win. If it did not act it would be critisised as quite rightfully was the UN for not acting in Rwanda. Now when it does act it gets criticised. Sometimes I look at the non human primates and wonder if humans really are the most intelligent creature on the planet. I do believe we are capable of being the most stupid.
S Johnson
UK - Saturday, May 01, 1999 at 03:38:18 (CDT)
Dear BENJAMIN SCHWARZ and CHRISTOPHER LAYNE, Your entry is very loftie, intelectual & noble. Question 1) Which ivory tower do you inhabit ? Answer = ? 2)Who stopped the war in in Bosnia & Croatia after 350,000 butchered by Serbs ? Answer = NATO.
A Jones
USA - Friday, April 30, 1999 at 13:20:30 (CDT)
President Clinton's address attempting to justify--after the fact--the US-led NATO bombing of Serbia should set off alarms. After all, the ideas and concerns Clinton invoked--the notion of instability spreading from country to country (much like falling dominoes), the perception that world politics is a bipolar ideological confrontation between democracy and dictatorship, the obsession with reaffirming US leadership and resolve, the anxiety about the vitality of alliance commitments and the conviction that US security is tied to peace in an area of little inherent strategic importance--were all factors that led to the catastrophe of American involvement in Vietnam. To be sure, presidential addresses are intended to persuade, but the American people have a right to expect their chief executive--even one with Bill Clinton's track record--to avoid distortions and half-truths. Clinton's statement to the nation fell well short of the mark. It also failed the test of logic. In trying to rally public support, Clinton apparently hoped that, although taken in isolation his points were suspect, if he somehow packaged them using an everything-including-the-kitchen-sink approach, the factual and logical flaws would be lost in the crowd. Clinton's explanation of the Kosovo conflict's background was, to put it charitably, misleading. He glossed over the fact that the province of Kosovo (the cradle of Serbia's cultural and national identity) is an integral part of Serbia's sovereign territory. Far from being a case of one state committing aggression against another, this conflict is, of course, a civil war, the root of which is the province's ethnic Albanians' armed struggle to break free of Serbia and establish an independent state. Thus, as in numerous ethnic conflicts in the Balkans and elsewhere, the opposing sides' objectives cannot be reconciled. Clinton was also misleading in placing sole blame for the breakdown of the recent NATO-brokered Rambouillet peace talks on the Serbs. The ethnic Albanians also refused at first to sign the NATO peace deal, because it failed to guarantee their eventual independence from Serbia. The United States finally induced them to sign by threatening to cut off the Kosovo Liberation Army's access to arms and by reminding the KLA that without its assent to the agreement, NATO could not conduct airstrikes against Serbia. When KLA intransigence initially stalled the talks, US officials--especially Secretary of State Madeleine Albright--were palpably frustrated because they feared that their plans to bomb Serbia would be derailed. The President's description of the peace process also left out some important details. Essentially, the Serbs, who were given the choice of signing or being bombed, were "negotiating" with a gun at their heads. They saw the Rambouillet deal as one-sided because, although the plan provided that Kosovo would nominally remain a part of Serbia for three years, it also would have reduced the Serbian government's actual control over the province to a nullity. Of course, the plan ostensibly would have disarmed the KLA in Kosovo, but because that group can operate out of neighboring Albania, it could have stockpiled weapons there. In fact, the KLA made its intentions quite clear: After the three-year transitional period, either Kosovo would become independent, or the KLA would resume the war. Furthermore, Serbia resented the provisions of the peace plan that would have required Belgrade to accept the presence of NATO forces in Kosovo. An analogy to America's own bitter war of secession can illustrate what NATO is trying to compel Serbia to do. It is as if the nineteenth-century concert of Europe had forced President Lincoln to accept Southern independence and European troops on American soil to police the agreement, and had threatened to intervene militarily in support of the Confederate Army if Lincoln refused. After all, the unprecedentedly murderous American Civil War appalled Europeans just as much as the Kosovo conflict does US leaders today. And just as Europeans believed that North American "stability" (and access to Southern cotton) was vital to their prosperity, so US policy-makers today are convinced that European stability is essential to the United States' economic well-being. (Of course, the social systems defended in Kosovo and the American South aren't parallel.) Clinton justified the NATO action as a "moral imperative" to end the killing of ethnic-Albanian civilians. Indeed, other US officials have gone even further, describing the Serbian campaign in Kosovo as "genocide." Although this characterization is demonstrably false (and trivializes truly genocidal campaigns, like Hitler's attempt to exterminate European Jewry), the President certainly is correct to observe that innocent civilians are dying in Kosovo (before NATO's intervention, about 2,000 civilians, mainly ethnic Albanians killed by the Serbs but also Kosovar Serbs killed by the KLA, had perished there) and that the war is a humanitarian tragedy, with hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing Kosovo and Serbian killings of civilians. But this is only part of the truth. Civil wars are notoriously brutal, and guerrilla wars are particularly hellish; the unconscionable acts that Clinton condemned are inherent to these conflicts. In the kind of guerrilla campaign waged by the KLA, civilians are inescapably targets of violence, because the insurgents draw their manpower, material sustenance and political support from the friendly population in whose name they fight. In a guerrilla war--any guerrilla war--the line differentiating fighters from noncombatants inevitably evaporates. The Serbs should be castigated for their brutal tactics in Kosovo, but the United States has no moral ground to stand on in such matters. For example, the United States designated wide areas of South Vietnam thought to be under Vietcong control as "free-fire zones." Rules of engagement were not restricted in those areas, because anyone found there was considered a Vietcong fighter or supporter. Even on its own terms, the argument that we must intervene in Kosovo to stave off a humanitarian catastrophe is unconvincing. Although the Serbs have obviously committed atrocities, in the Balkan wars of this decade all the combatants have been guilty of acts of savagery. Indeed, several days before the NATO airstrikes began, the drama in Kosovo overshadowed the report by the international war crimes tribunal in The Hague of the atrocities--massive ethnic cleansing, summary executions, indiscriminate shelling of civilian populations--the Croatian Army committed with the tacit blessing of the United States during its summer 1995 offensive against the Croatian Serbs. For its part, the KLA--whose goals include not only independence but the expulsion of Serbs from Kosovo--has kidnapped and executed Serb civilians and burned their villages. And while Clinton has depicted Serbian actions in the most horrific light possible, he remains silent about the human rights atrocities perpetrated by America's NATO ally Turkey, which has been waging a decades-long military campaign of repression against its Kurdish ethnic minority. Like Serbia, Turkey has questionable democratic credentials. Like the ethnic Albanians in Kosovo, Kurds waging a guerrilla war demand independence. Turkey has responded to the Kurdish insurgency with the same tactics that Clinton has imputed to the Serbs: terror, "genocide" and suppression of human rights. Yet the Clinton Administration does not propose bombing Ankara, which, of course, provokes the obvious question: Why intervene in Kosovo and not in Turkey--or Sudan, Rwanda, Congo or Sierra Leone, for that matter, where humanitarian intervention is at least as justified? The moral argument for intervention in Kosovo is cast in terms of universally applicable principles. But Washington picks and chooses its humanitarian interventions, inserting itself in some conflicts and ignoring others in which the reasons to act are at least as compelling. This leaves US policy-makers open to the charge that they are using humanitarian concerns as a pretext to mobilize public support for military interventions undertaken for other reasons. The President asserted that America's vital interests are at stake in Kosovo. As he put it, the United States and the alliance must "defuse a powder keg at the heart of Europe that has exploded twice before in this century with catastrophic results." Here, Clinton's understanding of European history is particularly misguided. In arguing for intervention to prevent a wider war, he said that "Sarajevo, the capital of neighboring Bosnia, is where World War I began." But comparisons to the First World War actually point to a policy antithetical to the one he is pursuing. The fuse of that war was lit in Sarajevo not because ethnic conflict existed in the Balkans but because great powers meddled in those conflicts. (The Balkans do not have even so tenuous a connection to the origins of World War II.) Clinton has also stressed the need to act to preserve NATO's credibility. The President argues that to let Serbian aggression go unpunished will encourage leaders in other troubled areas to pursue dangerous policies. But halting Serbian aggression is no more likely to deter future aggressors than US action in the Persian Gulf--which, after all, was defended as part of a new world order that would punish aggressors--deterred Serbia. In the world of statecraft, most crises are discrete, not tightly linked. The outcome of events in other potential hot spots will be decided by local conditions, not by what the United States does or does not do in the Balkans. Put another way, just as Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic was not deterred by US action against Iraq; Saddam Hussein was not deterred by US action in Panama; Manuel Antonio Noriega was not deterred by US action in Grenada, Lebanon and Vietnam; Ho Chi Minh was not deterred by US action against North Korea; and Kim Il Sung and Joseph Stalin were not deterred by US action against Adolf Hitler. America's misplaced obsession with credibility will doom the United States to a string of military interventions in strategically peripheral regions. Paradoxically, unless Serbia quickly knuckles under to NATO bombing, the effect of Kosovo intervention may be to rupture fatally the very alliance the airstrikes were intended to solidify. If the Serbs refuse to capitulate, the alliance's fragile unity will likely dissolve. Indeed, a bare forty-eight hours after the bombing commenced, Greece and Italy already were expressing unease with the air campaign. The President's argument that, absent US intervention in Kosovo, the war will engulf the entire Balkan region, pit Greece against Turkey and "destabilize" all of Europe is nothing more than a recycled version of the long-discredited domino theory. But, aside from the theory's general flaws, Clinton's specific application of it to Kosovo is problematic. After all, the Administration's grand strategy of "Engagement and Enlargement" is based explicitly on the convictions that democracies do not fight other democracies and that international institutions foster peace among their members. Washington considers both Greece and Turkey democracies, and both are members of the same institution--NATO. So, in essence, the Clinton Administration is waging war in Kosovo to forestall a Greco-Turkish conflict that, according to the Administration's own core foreign policy assumptions, cannot occur. Also, to the extent that the Kosovo conflict does "spill over" into neighboring Macedonia and Albania, NATO's attacks are likely to be the proximate cause. Rather than dampening Serbian military attacks against Kosovo's ethnic Albanians, NATO's airstrikes have intensified Serbian aggression, which in turn has caused more Albanians to flee Kosovo. Meanwhile, the likelihood of cross-border clashes has increased, because the KLA will undoubtedly use refugee camps in Albania as bases of operations. The violent anti-US/NATO demonstrations in Macedonia in reaction to the bombing clearly illustrate how NATO intervention is contributing to regional destabilization, but even if war spreads to neighboring Albania and Macedonia, instability in those states poses no greater intrinsic threat to US interests than does the conflict in Kosovo. President Clinton says that if the United States allows a fire to burn in the Balkans, "the flames will spread," but one way to fight forest fires is let the fire burn itself out. Wars end when both sides are exhausted, or when one side realizes it has been defeated and abandons the struggle. In the other Balkan conflict, in Bosnia, the war might have ended with fewer dead if the Bosnian Muslims had tried to negotiate an accommodation with the Serbs much earlier in the conflict. One of the reasons they didn't do so is that they believed NATO would eventually rescue them. But they did not simply rely on the natural course of events to bring NATO into the conflict. Rather, to create sympathy in the West for their cause, they manipulated the situation and engaged in clever propaganda. A decisive moment in the Bosnian conflict occurred in early 1994, when a mortar shell exploded in a crowded Sarajevo marketplace, killing and maiming scores of civilians. The Serbs were immediately blamed for this atrocity, and NATO's intervention followed shortly thereafter. The evidence that the Bosnian Serbs were responsible is, at best, highly inconclusive. In fact, as former British foreign secretary David Owen reports in his account of his tenure as the European Union's Balkan peace envoy, there is strong evidence that the Bosnian Muslims fired the offending mortar shell themselves to fabricate an incident that would spur NATO intervention to relieve the siege of Sarajevo. In Kosovo, as US and NATO officials have acknowledged off the record, the United States has been subject to similar provocations, as the KLA has maneuvered to bring NATO into the war as its de facto air force. Clinton has also been unable to think through the short- and medium-term implications of NATO intervention. US and NATO officials say that air power will compel Serbia to abide by the alliance's wishes. But as World War II, Vietnam and the Persian Gulf War demonstrated, air power alone does not win wars. To prevail over an opponent, one must prevail on the ground. The Clinton Administration, however, has created its own mythology about air power's efficacy, contending that the NATO bombing of the Bosnian Serbs in the summer of 1995 forced them to negotiate at Dayton. In fact, the decisive event that ended the Bosnian war was the successful summer 1995 ground offensive against the Bosnian Serbs launched by the Croatian Army. So air power is highly unlikely to break Serbia's will. The US Strategic Bombing Survey found that the Allied bombing of German cities during World War II actually stiffened German civilians' will to resist. In the Vietnam War, the United States again tried unsuccessfully to use bombing to crack the North's will to prosecute the war. The airstrikes against Serbia are no more likely to succeed in their objective than did those in Southeast Asia. In World War II, of course, even the awesome military power of Nazi Germany could not subdue the (mostly Serb) Yugoslav resistance. And throughout the cold war, the Serb-led Yugoslav Army prepared to resist a possible Soviet invasion with the same tactics, and tenacity, it had employed successfully against the Nazis. American policy-makers notoriously misread the psychology, the history and the nationalism of other nations. For all Clinton's talk about vital interests, the struggle in Kosovo is only of the remotest geopolitical consequence to the United States. For Serbia, however, it involves the highest stakes for which a nation can fight: the defense of its sovereign territory. In conflicts like those in Vietnam or Kosovo, the interests of US adversaries clearly outweigh US interests--which means that an opponent's resolve is likely to outlast America's. Indeed, far from turning against the popularly elected Serbian president, Serbs of all political stripes have united against NATO. And should US troops ever be deployed in Kosovo as peacekeepers, they would almost certainly be targets of revenge-seeking Serb terrorists (US troops in neighboring Bosnia will similarly be at risk). Clinton's policy is likely to have other, even more important and unfortunate, strategic consequences. Intended or not, US actions--including NATO expansion, and now the intervention in Kosovo--have gravely offended and alarmed Russia. American policy-makers suggest that NATO's military intervention troubles only "extremist" Russians. But Washington should have no illusions: Opposition to NATO's attacks and its expansion is probably the one major foreign policy issue on which virtually the entire Russian political class is united. NATO, after all, was supposedly designed as a defensive alliance to repel a military attack on its member states, but in Kosovo it has radically extended its writ by intervening in a state unconnected to it. Furthermore, from Moscow's perspective, the United States, by bringing its powerful military alliance to Russia's borders, has reneged on a bargain it struck with Russia at the end of the cold war. At that time Moscow agreed to quit Eastern Europe and to allow German unification. Moreover, Russia acceded to the continued existence of an alliance that had been hostile to it and even agreed to the inclusion of newly unified Germany in that alliance. In return, Moscow received assurances from the United States and its allies that they would not take advantage of this situation to tip the geopolitical balance in a way that would potentially threaten Russia's security. Russians have good reasons to worry about NATO expansion, which, as Clinton has acknowledged, is a means to consolidate and extend America's military and political leadership in Europe. Great powers have always been more concerned about competitors' capabilities than about their intentions--because intentions can change quickly. In the post-cold war era, NATO remains the most powerful military alliance the world has ever seen. Even those Russians who are not closet aggressors are anxious about having such an impressive military association poised on their frontier. NATO's expansion, coupled with its intervention in cases in which the alliance's security is not threatened, could lead to a nationalist backlash. Russia may be down now, but because its history as a great power is cyclical, there is every reason to assume that it will recover. American actions make it more likely that a resurgent Russia will harbor deep and justifiable resentment toward the United States. A hostile Russia not only could create trouble in Europe but could also undermine the US strategic position globally by aligning with China. At a time when many American strategists are concerned about a future great-power threat from China, a wise long-term US strategy would aim to insure Russian partnership with Washington. It is the height of folly to follow a policy in the Balkans that can only have the effect of pushing Russia more closely into Beijing's embrace. In his address to the nation Clinton also briefly invoked another, particularly disturbing argument for intervention. In a speech the previous day, he had discussed this rationale at greater length, declaring that "if we're going to have a strong economic relationship that includes our ability to sell around the world, Europe has got to be a key.... That's what this Kosovo thing is all about." He thus seems to argue that the United States is fighting a war in Kosovo to make the world safe for capitalism. In fact, the President and other policy-makers have long been making similar arguments. In explaining its global strategy, for instance, the Pentagon declared in 1993 that "a prosperous, largely democratic, market-oriented zone of peace and prosperity that encompasses more than two-thirds of the world's economy" requires the "stability" that only American "leadership" can provide. In the debate over US intervention in Bosnia, leading foreign policy figures, including the former head of the National Security Agency and Senator Richard Lugar, asserted that, left unchecked, the war there could lead to "national parochialism" in Europe, threatening global economic interdependence and US prosperity. The air war against Serbia is just the latest installment in what appears to be Washington's quest to make the world safe for America's investors and exporters. Last year, speaking to the Boston Chamber of Commerce, Defense Secretary William Cohen justified NATO expansion as a way of "spreading the kind of security and stability that Western Europe has enjoyed since after World War II to Central and Eastern Europe." And, in an observation certain to resonate with his audience, he noted: "And with that spread of stability, there is a prospect to attract investment." No doubt the Administration is moved by the human tragedy of Kosovo. Clearly, however, its perception that US economic interests are indirectly at stake is at least as important. As Cohen has said, the Administration's strategy seeks to "discourage violence and instability--instability which destroys lives and markets." Clinton recently exhorted Americans to accept the "inevitable logic" of globalism and free trade. But the Administration's Balkan policy shows that globalization is not inevitable--it depends on America's overseas military commitments and its willingness to wage war if necessary. What is most frightening about this economic rationale (which amounts to an imperialist argument) is its open-endedness. According to US policy-makers, the logic of global economic interdependence leads inevitably to a proliferation of US security commitments: Instability and aggression, virtually wherever they occur, are regarded as a threat to America, because they would disrupt the global stability upon which the United States purportedly depends for its prosperity. This thinking is, again, similar to the domino theory: Instability in even economically unimportant areas (like Kosovo) could "spill over" and infect other areas regarded as essential to global economic interdependence. The US action in Kosovo should give Americans considerable pause as they contemplate their nation's role in international politics. It is one thing to oppose, as the United States did in the Persian Gulf, an aggressive attack by one state against another. It is something else entirely to proclaim, as Washington has, that the United States now reserves the right to use military force to alter another state's internal political arrangements when Washington finds that these offend its ever-shifting political sensibilities. It indeed is quite fantastic to find the United States taking military action against a sovereign state in Europe that poses no threat to America's security or to its interests. If the United States is not the aggressor that Russia says it is, at the least it is displaying the arrogance of power common to imperial states. We should know, of course, the trouble in which this arrogance of power can mire us. It is too early to tell if the Clinton Administration's policy will ultimately lead to the use of US ground troops in the Kosovo conflict. But there is ample reason to fear that this could happen. Vietnam showed that once the decision to use military force has been made, policy-makers are under almost irresistible pressure to escalate to win--or to avoid failure. Anyone familiar with the history of the Kennedy and Johnson administrations' step-by-step descent into the Vietnam quagmire must have been chilled in recent days by the statements of many members of Congress and foreign policy analysts. Even many of those, like Senator John McCain and Henry Kissinger, who were initially skeptical of intervention now contend that, once committed, the United States has no choice but to do whatever is necessary--including using ground forces--to prevail. If any clear lesson emerges from Vietnam, it is that it makes no sense to compound a mistake by digging oneself more deeply into a strategic morass. The questions that policy-makers must ask now are: What does "victory" in Kosovo mean, and can victory be attained without incurring costs disproportionate to the US interests at stake? Astonishingly, an Administration led and staffed by opponents of the Vietnam War is now compelled by the same concerns that drove, and blind to the same obstacles that confounded, the architects of that conflict. Representing one foreign policy tradition, John Quincy Adams admonished America to "go not abroad in search of monsters to destroy." The US intervention in Kosovo should prompt Americans to heed his warning. During the 1992 election campaign, Clinton said the United States should play a lofty global role; it would be "intolerable" for the United States to act as if it were "simply...another great power." But rather than have the United States pursue grandiose visions pleasing to its self-image, followers of Adams's tradition--like Charles Beard and William Appleman Williams on the left, as well as such thoughtful conservatives as George Kennan and Walter Lippmann--accept that there are not and need not be US solutions to the world's myriad problems. They understand that balancing costs and benefits, resources and commitments, is a moral as well as strategic imperative. States that fail to do so run the risk of political and economic ruin. Instead of crediting Clinton's notions of the intolerable, post-cold war America should attend to Lippmann's sobering injunction: "A mature great power...will eschew the theory of a global and universal duty which not only commits it to unending wars of intervention but intoxicates its thinking with the illusion that it is a crusader for righteousness.... I am in favor of learning to behave like a great power, of getting rid of the globalism which would not only entangle us everywhere but is based on the totally vain notion that if we do not set the world in order, no matter what the price, we cannot live in the world safely.... We shall have to learn to live as a great power which defends itself and makes its way among other great powers.
BENJAMIN SCHWARZ and CHRISTOPHER LAYNE
Canada - Friday, April 30, 1999 at 07:23:51 (CDT)
Dijana.. actually no u didn't answer the questions u just rambled on about the same things u always do. I asked you how many hundreds of thousands of Serbs were kicked out of Krajina.. also how could the Serbs keep it as their own when Croatia was given independance? As for the other comment majority rules you forgot to add "thats the way it should work" your words... i asked you if the people of those suburbs wanted independance should they get it??? (putting it simply so u can understand i mean the magority of the people living in those suburbs). One more question what did the Croats do with ALL those Serbs that were asked to follow the Croation rule of Democracy but didn't? Oh by the was it's quite obvious that your are a hypocite it's a wonder you can't see it for yourself though.
TCK
SYDNEY, NSW AUSTRALIA - Friday, April 30, 1999 at 02:25:46 (CDT)
JUST HEARD THAT AN EATHQUAKE WAS FELT IN BEOGRAD! WELL, IS THAT A SIGN OF GOD OR WHAT! EVERYONE IS AGAINS SLOBO MILOSEVIC! WAKE UP TO YOURSELVES YOU SERBIANS! I DON'T HATE YOU AND I HATE WATCHING INNOCENT PEOPLE SUFFER! CAN'T YOU SEE WHAT HE'S DOING TO YOU! HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE SERB PEOPLE! HE'S JUST TRYING TO STAY IN POWER, AND YOU ARE ALL FALLING FOR IT! FOR ALL HIS BULLSH#T! ALL THE PROPAGANDA! CAN'T YOU SEE!???
DIJANA
AUSTRALIA - Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 23:06:46 (CDT)
TCK..OK, you asked "How many hundreds of thousands of serbs got kicked out of Krajina?" - I didn't realise Krajina was that big to "kick" out THAT many serbs. The World had recognised Croatia as a seperate country to "yugoslavia" but the Serbs living in Krajina kept it and called in Serbia. Krajina was never and will NEVER be part of Serbia, but the Serbs kept it as their own. Let me ask you how many Croats lived on that soil? On Croat Soil? How many Croats were allowed into Krajina after Croatia was declared independant! Serbs JUST DON'T GET IT! Everything has to belong to them! Rather sad really, because what they got with that attitude was NOTHING! Most of "greater serbia" has disappeared! That's what you get for being greedy murderers. HOW MANY CROATS WERE BUTCHERED IN VUKOVAR!?? How many serbs were killed in war on Serb soil in that war??? You answere that one! No, I'll answere it.. NONE!!! Regarding my comments about "Majority Rules"... you can't compare Sydney with the former yugoslavia! Here in this civilised country all nationalities "get along". In China Town, in Bonyyrig, in Edensor Park... people live TOGETHER! You just don't understand the Concept!!! Croats NEVER kicked out serbs from Croatia, just asked them to follow Croatian rule - Democracy NOT Communism, but NOOOO the serbs wouldn't have it! It's their way or no way! In Australia people live together minding their own business, they follow the Australian Laws, in the former Yugoslavia the serbs rule by FORCE! HAVE I ANSWERED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS NOW?? IF NOT LET ME KNOW WHICH ONES I MISSED. DIJANA
DIJANA
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA - Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 22:56:02 (CDT)
Dijana.. I'm waitibg for you to answer the question i asked you..two times i might add.. scroll down and have a look i'm sure you'll see it.. Can't wait to hear your point of view.
TCK
SYDNEY, NSW AUSTRALIA - Thursday, April 29, 1999 at 22:06:13 (CDT)
ATTN TCK: What are you waiting for! I'm ready for your comments full of hatred! Sto cekas mali? or is it mala? I can't imagine a female writing like you do, so I'm guessing your a "mali". You can't make me angry, although I know you will try! I'm flying on top of the world! I have everything I want in life.... so your hatred will NOT bother me, but you will try.... c'mon STO CEKAS????
DIJANA <Dijana_J@hotmail.com>
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA - Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 21:33:54 (CDT)
ATTN: TCK No the cat has NOT got my tounge, and I certainly haven't given up! Sorry to dissapoint! I've been away, I got engaged! (To a Bosanac / Croat)! So I've been busy with MY LIFE! But I'm back now!!! Full of energy and vigour!!! So I guess I'll be writing to you soon! Dijana
DIJANA
USA - Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 21:25:08 (CDT)
THE BELOW COMMENT IS SOOOO TYPICAL OF SERBS! YOU SHALL NEVER EVER LAY YOUR DIRTY FINGERS ON KRAJINA! THAT WAR IS OVER HONEY! WE WON! IF ANYONE CAN "WIN" IN WAR??!! HRVATSKA / CROATIA WILL NEVER BE TOUCHED BY YOU AGAIN! EVER!!! GOD GAVE US CROATIA BACK AND HE WON'T LET YOU TAKE IT AGAIN! NO CHANCE! WE BEAT OFF THE STRONG YUGO ARMY! WE HAD NOTHING AND YET WE STILL GOT WHAT WAS OURS! FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS HEY! GOD GIVES TO THE GOOD! YOU KEEP UP YOUR EFFORTS IN KOSOVA, BUT IT WILL COME TO NO AVAIL! SERBS ARE NOT FIGHTING FOR WHAT THEY LOVE! THE ALBAINIANS ARE! AS DID THE CROATS! HAVE A GREAT DAY!! DIJANA
DIJANA - KRAJINA JE HRVATSKA! <DIJANA_J@HOTMAIL.COM>
USA - Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 21:21:52 (CDT)
After the albanians are no more, Krajina here we come!
Dinara
USA - Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 19:56:45 (CDT)
It is sad see so many of you contributing to this debate are falling for the propaganda of one side or the other and joining in. Do none of you, who take so much savage glee in either calling Serbians "barabarians and murders" or Albanians "foreigners who deserve to be driven from their homes and murdered and raped" realise that you are talking mostly about ordinary people who are receivng terrible treatment meted out by govts on both sides who care nothing for human life? True, the Serbian government and its troops are committing atrocities. There is no denying that. Soldiers who join armies voluntarily and then carry out criminal acts do not, in my humble opinion, deserve leniency. They choose the path of violence, or potential violence, and can expect terrible consequences for terrible acts. However they are still human beings and demonising them does not help. When individuals or states embark om violence and terror it is up to the community to protect the victims. Yet I ask you, how many lives has this bombing SAVED? I see nothing but more deaths. Surely if the Allies wanted to save lives in Albania they should, as many western leaders both military and civil have said, "put themselves IN HARMS WAY", as the western propaganda likes to say, and send ground troops -that is other individuals who have chosen careers of potential risk- into Albania and protect the victims. I do not see this. I do not see the West protecting Albanians. I see them bombing Serbia, for weeks, killing many innocent civilians and in their own turn justifying it by calling it "collateral damage" and other nauseating phrases from a propaganda dictionary that Herr Goebels wouild have been proud of. The Albanians deserve protection. This is undeniable. All war criminals deserve punishment for their actions. But be fair to the Serbian people. I hear, or read, over and over people criticising the Serbians for tolerating the Dictator. Easy to say from the safety of your armchair in the luxurious west. How exactly does one stand up to a brutal dictator who is prepared to "ethically cleanse" (another goebels' phrase if you ask me) over one million innocent people. Even this website has many accounts of opposition journalists being arrested and murdered, independent media shut down. The serbian civilians are not responsible for the actions of their dictator and his terror forces. They deserve our support and compassion too. I am not attempting to defend the Serbian state with my comments. Obviously terrible events are continuously taking place. But surely the point is to halt violence, not to escalate it. The western allies are not even feeding and housing the majority of the refugees. News reports now talks of conditions in the refugee camps becoming so bad that they are on the verge of rioting. The west is spending billions of dollars on warplanes and cruise missiles and propaganda but cannot afford tents and food for the people they claim they are their to protect. I believe the west is insincere. I believe they are opportunist. It seems they do not care enough about the Albanians to send in troops to risk their lives to help them, or even to spend the money to feed and shelter those who reach what they hope is sanctuary. They are prepared to bomb and bomb because that uses up expensive weapon systems which stimulates their economies. They have wanted to destroy Yugoslavia since the day it came into existence as ANY viable socialist state is a threat to the status quo, the Old World Order which poses as the New World Order, as though there was any time in the last 500 years when the globe was not dominated by rich white men, and their banks, industries and war machines. In Rwanda the west did nothing; it was "too far away" and did not further the political interests of any western governments. UN forces in Rwanda were instructed to do nothing. There were no profits to be made. The French General in command broke down in tears at the inquiry when he recounted how his three thousand troops, who he believed had the ability to intervene and save thousands of lives, were orderd by the UN high command to stand aside and do nothing. I suspect he regrets to this day that he did not disobey and use his to actually save lives. All of you who are taking sides and calling the serbs -in general- murderers are fools. The serbian army are the criminals, do not fall for the trap of demonising all people so much that you can accept anything that happens to THEM. "THEM" is innocent civilians who for the most part want to get on with their lives, raise families, have interesting careers etc. All Serbian people who are not war criminals deserve our help, not our hate and the violence of our leaders. Be discerning please, it is the end of the 20th century, a century soaked in blood and trauma as a result of the lies of leaders. But I am not taking sides. How nauseating to see Serbians joining in this debate and deciding that Albanian civilians somehow for their part deserve their houses being burned, their men folk tortured and murdered, their women and children raped and muredered. Name one set of laws on the planet which imposes that punishment for any crime. There is none. By supporting your armies you too are nazi war criminals. Be careful, decent serbians deserve our support, all others will be held accountable. We who are non-combatant observers surely have only one ethical path and that is to try and determine the truth and address the victims with compassion. The truth does come out in the end but usually that is too late to help the victims. I do not profess to have ALL the answers. I only know for certain that people are dying for no reason and the the world's actions do not seem to be making any significant difference. He who kills the most people may "win" but sure as HELL will not be "right". Lets have a debate based on compassion, not tub thumping and chest pounding and name calling. The victims of violence deserve better from their neighbours. Respect and Justice to you all
richard johnson <ravene69@yahoo.com>
Te Wai Pounamu - Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 19:49:56 (CDT)
Dijana has the cat got your tounge??? I'm still waiting for your comments or haven't you got any anymore? You had a comment for everyone else but when your confronted with a simple question you can't answer it... what a shame.
TCK
SYDNEY, NSW AUSTRALIA - Wednesday, April 28, 1999 at 06:51:50 (CDT)
**** THE DIFFICULT CHOICE ******************************* ********************************************************* Question for everyone: What would make things worst? a) Bill Clinton in the position of Yugoslav President b) Slobotan Milosevic in the US Presidency ? Otherwise: the pimp or the butcher?
Vangelis <pyem@swansea.ac.uk>
Swansea, UK - Monday, April 26, 1999 at 12:57:32 (CDT)

To raven Woo jk USA, Thank Christ its the Americans that own most of the money and weapons and not the Serb death squads. You live in country where you can see in the media the horror inflicted on millions of people by the Serbs and all you can do is criticise the people of the country you live in who are risking their lives to stop it. If you lived in Serbia and criticised Serbs you would wiped out. The fact that you can speak your warped views with impunity shows you live in a country better than Serbia. A Million peoples homes torched by the Serbs. All NATO is doing is to enable those people to return and live their lives as they wish. It is the Serbs who are imposing upon them, not NATO. Go on now quote some fact about Vietnam from 30 years ago. What the f*ch would that have to do with what is the right thing to do now.
J. Mc Kenzie
USA - Friday, April 23, 1999 at 18:02:37 (CDT)

Poor Milo, the war monger gets one of his house's bombed. I presume he paid Tito for it, if so not with hard earned money. Incidently how many houses has he got ? Just shows with communism some people are more equal than others. Had he been an Albanian Kosovan who just wants to live his life in peace, his wife would have been raped , he would have been shot, the valuables would be taken then the house would have been torched. Frankly Milo your getting off too lightly. Lets hope the ground forces will change all.
A Jones
UK - Friday, April 23, 1999 at 14:37:24 (CDT)

GOT YOUR BRIDGES,GOT THE YUGO FACTORY,GOT THE TRAIN,GOT SOME TRACTORS & NOW YOUR TV STATIO,AND MALOSODICKS HOUSE.YOU CAN KEEP THE THREE YANKS & THE STEALTH.LISTEN TO CNN NOW MOST OF THATS THE TRUTH.P.S. PUT THE FIRES OUT QUICKLY THEY ARE BAD FOR THE OZONE LAYER!
KEVIN <CROSSCHANNELIMPORTS@COMPUSERVE.COM>
EASTBOURNE, UK - Friday, April 23, 1999 at 14:24:54 (CDT)

Barbarians are at our gates. They are using their largest and smartest bombs to destroy our schools and hospitals, our museums and ancient monasteries, our heating plants and food factories, our bridges and dams. They shout for us to yield and let them in: "We are the United States. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated." At the end of the twentieth century we live in a world where one country controls all the weapons, all the money and all the media. It can maim and kill and starve populations at will, and then, through the complacent media, deny fault. It can create kangaroo courts that selectively prosecute those who oppose it, courts that issue secret indictments and send armed troops into sovereign countries to kidnap and murder the accused. It can select with impunity which international laws and agreements are politically expedient to adopt or honor, or which to ignore. It decides which terrorist organization should be bombed and which given money and arms; which mass expulsion of populations to aid and which to label genocide; which economies to support through loans and trade, and which to destroy through sanctions and currency speculations. It's goal is to assimilate all the world's cultures, all the world systems of value, all the world resources. War in Yugoslavia is nothing less then the fight for the twenty first century. It will decide whether we are going to live as drones with the consciousness of a hive controlled by the Queen and enforced by NATO, or whether we are going to live as sovereign peoples with distinct cultures, religions, languages, morals, and economic systems. Yugoslavia is the moral conscience of mankind. This small country, fully aware of the consequences, decided that the line must be drawn. This far, no further. Bombs may turn us into rubble, but we will not be assimilated. Resistance is not futile.
raven
woo, jk USA - Friday, April 23, 1999 at 00:56:56 (CDT)

with Kosovo. Dont't get me wrong I support it, but where was the U.S. When the genocide happened in Rowanda?
Peter <PGrab@bnet.bradford.edu>
Haverhill, MA USA - Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 19:26:21 (CDT)

Another Nationalist in someone else's country Mr Biggot below in Australia.
Anon
USA - Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 12:40:46 (CDT)

f*** i would kik all those f***in alabnians out of kosovo because it is our land and the have there own schools there and they learn there own language
dragan <onedr_boy@hotmail.com>
sydney, nsw australia - Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 06:30:05 (CDT)

That car you built the YUGO I had one of them,it was CRAP. I'm glad the factory got blown up!
Amanda <me@prestel.com>
london, Uk - Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 00:06:07 (CDT)

You lot that think Malosoprick is a good bloke are TOSSERS. Tito kept you all in chech didn't he! Now your like a load of head-less chikens. Ground troops in soon,with shovels to dig up the graves,just like in Bosnia.But you wankers still won't belive it will you.
KEVIN <CROSSCHANNELIMPORTS@COMP.COM>
E/BOURNE, SX UK - Thursday, April 22, 1999 at 00:01:57 (CDT)

Dear cbyguo, You are living in a "One Party State" and it shows. Your politicians ugly minds have got your mind right where they want it and it's not a pretty site. Milosovic is a minor Hitler and only NATO can help us. How would you like it if in WW2 we say we like Tojo ?
A. Zivanovic
Yugoslavia - Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 12:39:05 (CDT)

Hello,all the friends who love peace.First I show my respect to the serb for their spirit. The west always look the serb as the evil,in fact ,some of the west force are the evilest in the world.They always incite and make up all kinds of conflict in some country,When the conflict broke or upgrade.the west always emergr as the protector and judge.So their can benefit most from other country's tribulation,also can act as the police of the world and protector of the human right.
cbyguo <cbyguo@ihw.com.cn>
fuzhou, China - Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 07:55:43 (CDT)

It is quite obvious to me that alot of you outthere haven't got the slightest idea of what's happening in Kosovo at the moment. The Serbs are NOT against the Albanian population, there are merely fighting against the KLA terroists, that are not only killing Serbs but also their own ALBANIAN PEOPLE!!! Everyone compares Slobodan Milosevic to Hitler, obviously noone knows who Hitler was. Hitler tried to gain power by attacking OTHER nations... can someone please tell me which nations has Milosevic attacked? The only leader I can see that has attacked another nation other than his own is Bill Clinton! Milosevic has given four states their independence within the last 10 years. And now NATO expects him to give up the Serbian heritage too. Don't count on it! The Serbs have never made trouble for the Albanians living in Kosovo, why is it that the Albanians haven't paid rates and taxes to the Serbian Government for the last 15 years, I guess that must just be the Serbs being cruel yet again! And one last comment to everyones favourite... Dijana... you are obviously one seriously confused young lady. It is clear that you hate the Serbian popolation and try to cover it up by saying you are TRYING to stop the hatred, grow up, history has been written and it will never be erased. You can teach your children not to hate but that will never kill the hatred within you!
N. Conroy
Niagara Falls, Canada - Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 07:31:20 (CDT)

Dijana... Firstly read what i wrote specifically to you last time just so that i don't need to repeat myself regarding hate and loathing. Secondly in your letter addressed to me you keep going on about Kosovo.. when have i mentioned Kosovo? One more things you wrote alot of things but i didn't see the answer's to the questions i asked you, just to refresh your memory they were..."How many hundreds of thousands of Serbs got kicked out of there homes in Krajina?" and "you said "Majority rules... that's the way it should work" your in Sydney too so let's say the Chinese decided they wanted Cabramatta & China Town, the Croats want Endensor Park, the Serbs Bonnyrigg, the Lebs Bankstown etc etc.. and they all wanted independance should they get it??!" I'd like to here your comments on that.
TC.K
SYDNEY, NSW AUSTRALIA - Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 06:02:06 (CDT)

Attn: TCK- . Full of hate and loathing! Can't say I don't understand, I do, but at least I AM TRYING TO STOP THIS HATRED! Bet you can't say the same! You bring up my past comments for the 2nd time... do you not understand english! I explained my position before! I am angry, and probably will be for a long time, but I'm working on the HATE issue! Get it??? You just want to fight! Go for it, I won't join you! Sorry to dissapoint! WHATEVER YOUR ARGUMENTS, ABOUT KOSOVA, YOU ARE BLIND! There is NO EXCUSE for what the serbian militia is doing to these poor innocent people! NONE! You keep winging and making up excuses... THERE ARE NO EXCUSES! Never will be! It's just plain HATRED, spilling out all over Yugoslavia, or whats left of it! So much for the dream of "Greater Serbia", "Velika Srbija"... it shall NEVER eventuate! The serbs went about it the wrong way! Killing and raping... it's not the answer! Jesus won't allow it, and if he does't allow it, it won't happen! SORRY! STOP THE HATRED! It starts with only 1! Do you want you children to hate like you do??? If so, I give up! Don't answer this mail if you think like that! I don't have time for people who won't think on a spiritual level at all! Dijana
DIJANA <Dijana_J@hotmail.com>
Sydney, Australia - Wednesday, April 21, 1999 at 01:07:17 (CDT)

Firstly to the webmaster hopefully you'll find this name more acceptable. Secondly to Dijana where shall i begin.. let's see.How about we start of like this let's take a few of your earlier comments shall we..."I've been waiting for this day for years!", "f***ers", "Go to hell all you SERBIAN bastards!" and "I beleive serbs deserve to suffer more than anyone". Then in your latest letter addressed to me you wrote "I don't want you dead, I don't want to think of the entire Serbian race as evil.... it's not so, but that's how I use to think".. well from what i can tell thats STILL how you think and you want people to belive your not a hypocite now that's a JOKE! As for me 'hateing or loathing you' when did i ever say that? There is a major difference between the two of us you were tought to hate and you still do, where as i never was and i don't so don't put me in the same catagory as you.I've seen your comments about all the heartache the Serbs have caused croats & albanians i have a question for you... How many hundreds of thousands of Serbd got kicked out of there homes in Krajina? One last thing Dijana you said "Majority rules... that's the way it should work" your in Sydney too so let's say the Chinese decided they wanted Cabramatta & China Town, the Croats want Endensor Park, the Serbs Bonnyrigg, the Lebs Bankstown etc etc.. and they all wanted independance should they get it??!
TC.K
Sydney, NSW Australia - Tuesday, April 20, 1999 at 07:45:46 (CDT)

your comments and mine and they are gone... I was looking forward to your comments! I didn't think I was imagining it! About me being a Hypocrite and a Joke.... you say it but don't back it up! Why am I these things? Do tell! I'm interested in your thoughts! Lastnight, watching one of those current affairs programs where the Kids of both sides speak out... HOW DISCUSTING! Teaching the next generation to HATE! We were all taught to HATE, and I am trying to get over it (but it gets harder with each day). I really hope you don't teach your children to HATE. This bloodshed in our homelands will NEVER end! I don't like you (at all) and you don't like me, and that's FINE, but to teach the NEXT generation to be the same is a crime. I am NOT a hypocrite, JUST TRYING TO GET OVER THIS HATE INSIDE ME.... I don't want you dead, I don't want to think of the entire Serbian race as evil.... it's not so, but that's how I use to think. Do you understand at all! Probably not, because you hate Croats and most of the other non-orthadox people living in the Balkans! That's just stupid! I have much more "reason" to loath you than you me! You just don't see that! Dijana
Dijana <Dijana_J@hotmail.com>
Sydney, Australia - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 17:51:02 (CDT)

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You're the insane Biggot! Why do you Serbs always bring up History.... it is NOT relevant!!! But if you WANT to go into HISTORY... Kosova originally belonged to the Albanians....LONG BEFORE THE SERBS GOT THERE HANDS ON IT! But we could always go beyond then.... WHEN DOES IT STOP... Eventually we'd go back to the beginning of time.... it DOES NOT make scence to go into History! It is irrelevant! Majority rules... that's the way it should work. There are mostly Albanians in Kosova (till recently)... they should be able to govern themselves... that's just common scence... which the serbs have NONE OF! Why can't you just let everyone live in peace! Your excuse is ALWAYS history. Well what's the Story in Croatia.... that did not belong to the Serbs yet you killed thousands of innocent people to get your dirty hands on it! What's your excuse there hey!???!! NONE, you haven't got one! YOU ARE A FOOL, JUST LIKE YOUR STUFFED UP PRESIDENT! BLIND TO YOUR CRIMES.... YOU SHALL PAY ONE DAY... IF NOT IN THIS WORLD, THEN IN THE NEXT! MAY GOD FORGIVE YOU ALL! ZIVJELA SLOBODA! ZIVJELA HRVATSKA, BOSNA / HERCEGOVINA, SLAVONIA,MACEDONIA, KOSOVA! ALL THE COUNTIES YOU HAVE LOST IN YOUR BATTLE FOR GREATER SERBIA! Dijana
DIJANA <DIJANA_J@HOTMAIL.COM>
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA - Monday, April 19, 1999 at 00:48:58 (CDT)
that the unfair treat of HONGKONG .Don't forget! Your country benefit too much from the Hongkong during the one hundred and fifty-five years.It is the reason why your country cost so much to seizured it.You said that west help China and liberated China from the Japanese,I believe you had made a mistake.when China was fighting against seriously in 1937.Your premier declared cut off the international way which connected China to the east Asia.This action keep the China from receiveing internatonal aid. Your permier did so just because he didn't want to displease Japanese. It is history.It is Chinese liberated themseves. Though most of China suffered from MAO's policy .Chinese affairs and history we know clear ourseves .You west like to impose your consciousness and idea to other country above all the weak country ,the socialism country.Though Chinese CP do wrong to the people during the past fifty years,but in China communism mean a method of lie for a people.After independence no imperialism can bully us.We Chinese win the people respect. At last I stress that a sovereignty has right to solve his inner affairs,outer force has not right to interfere.At less the bomb ,the war can solve the conflict,It only lead to the opposition.
cbyguo <cbyguo@ihw.com.cn>
fuzhou, P.R.China - Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 08:11:54 (CDT)
Does it really matter what has happened hundreds of years ago? Will it hurt if the Kosovars live in the country? The don't want help the peace process, they want to be selfish and hold all the land to them selves just for the sake of what happened years ago. Can the Kosovars be held responsible what happened years ago...can anybody? Proposition? Let the Serbians and Kosovar's have one football game winner take all! Nobody gets killed! Make sense! But if the Serbians win then they find a place for all those people to live at the expense of the Yugoslav government!
RANDY <SLIME00@AOL.COM>
USA - Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 07:55:10 (CDT)
Don, you are very much mistaken, Yugoslavia is a nation and Kosova is very much Yugoslavian. Please read into the history all will seem clear to you. By the way this does affect me because I beleive in peace unlike Clinton.
Jackie
Sydney, Australia - Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 03:30:05 (CDT)
Dear Jackie, you are not with them, you are in Sydney. What is Yugoslavia any way, not a nation ?? they are not a nation but a battle ground of hundreds and hundreds of years of conflict hate and oppression created by religious and ethnic differences. KOSOVA rightfully belongs to the Albanians who have settled and developed that region. This of course has nothing to do with the fact that Milosevic is the worst war criminal in the post WWII era in Europe.
Don Murphy
USA - Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 02:50:13 (CDT)
Dear Gary McClaran, You are an ignorant, uneducated, insane Biggot.
J Thompson
UK - Sunday, April 18, 1999 at 02:29:47 (CDT)
Zivela Yugoslavia!!!All the Macedonians in Sydney are with you.
Jackie
Sydney, Australia - Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 21:43:39 (CDT)
MILO NEEDS TO BE DRAWN AND QUARTERED AND HIS BODY PARTS SENT TO THE FORMER REPUBLICS TO BE PUT ON DISPLAY.
CHUCK M.
CASTAIC , CA USA - Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 20:48:01 (CDT)
I am from the southern U.S. in the Peoples Republic of Alabama. Don't call me Yank cause I'm a Johnny Reb and have no respect for this wicked Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton's good buddy (Supreme Commander of Nato) General Wesley Clark, grew up in Little Rock, Arkansas just like Bill. They both are Rhodes Scholars and went to Oxford at the same time. They are buddies. Why do you think Clark has such a meteoric rise to power. His buddy Bill. I hate NATO and I am ashamed for the first time in my life to be called an American. I apologize to the Yugoslavian people for our part in this war. Our military personnel should be ashamed and should mutiny. Unfortunately they are just a bunch of automatons. Milosevic may be no angel, but neither is Clinton. He has helped to ruin our country. We will be glad when he returns to the dust. Not to worry though, America will probably fall soon thanks to Bill. He is a globalist puppet and has given away the sovereignty of our country. He is a traitor along with his wife and most of our politicians. The most extreme penalty of the law should be given to them all. The U.S. currently worships the "Golden Calf of a Bull Market", and will most likely suffer total destruction in the near future. Our people are weak and would die if they couldn't worship their sports or go to the shopping mall. May the Lord reward us all according to our works.
Gary McClaran <oxford@fiberia.com>
Pinson, AL USA - Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 19:12:50 (CDT)
Hello CBYGUO in China, Thank you for your e mail. I am quite happy to admit that England's colonial past, as you mention, is not all rosy. I live in a country where we can be free to say the sun does not shine out of our ass's. I think we were wrong to take Hong Kong from you because perhaps you don't appreciate the wealth making non communist jewel we turned it into. Kosovo will be no Jewel when the Serbs have finished with it. I notice you made no mention of the part the west played in liberating China from the Japanese, only for you to be enslaved by a communists regime that shot all those students in Tiananmen square in 1990 who disagreed with your government. Of course even though you live in China you probably do not even know about it because you are fed a diet of news chosen by your government. Worst of all I expect you do not know of the 60,000,000 chinese killed in your 1966 Mao cultural revolution. Many died from man made famine in Mao's experiment in collective farms. You do not see the pictures and video of millions of refugees fleeing from the Serbs. You do not know of the around 250,000 mostly civilians killed in Bosnia and 100,000 killed in Croatia by the Serb death and rape squads which in the end were stopped by NATO. You do not see the one million refugees, many now freezing in the mountains, fleeing from the Serbs who have burned their homes. All you are shown is the relatively tiny number of civilians who unfortunatelly have been killed in the NATO action that is trying to stop this catastrophe. You say "All of Chinese support the yugoslavia ". What do you mean by Yugolsavia. Yugoslavia is a federation of countries like Bosnia, Kosovo, Croatia, Montenegro etc almost all of whom have suffered under Serb Tyranny and want independence from Serbia. If you really support Yugoslavia then the Serbs are the last people you should support. They are destroying it. The Serbs want to dominate Yugoslavia just like the Japanese wanted to dominate Asia. I am afraid, your leaders are playing a political game with this terrible situation to help unite you in your hatred of the West because they know while you are hating the West you are less likely to feel the hatred towards them that they deserve. They are prepared to risk World War Three just to save their lousy political necks. I hope one day you will be free from them because you deserve to know the truth of what is going on in the world. Robin Pearce
Robin Pearce
USA - Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 14:32:36 (CDT)
I don't who to believe really. The only thing I am sure of, is that all sides are lying somewhat. It's clear that this so called, 'ethnic cleansing' is true, but it's also clear that the NATO strikes aren't getting the job done fast enough. I think Serbia needs a new leader who will work with the US, NATO, China, and Russia. .... And what is scary to me, is that the majority of Chinese opinions I have read, is that the Chinese hate Americans. That's odd, since 30-40% of Americans ( a VERY LARGE NUMBER ) do not really support NATO's action. So why are the Chinese blaming the US? I personally didn't start this, I'm not involved ( other than my opinions ), and I don't trust either government ( my own, the US, or Serbia's. ). If this is the way it has to be, with many Chinese hating the US ( especially the youth, who are the future of China ), then I see a war occuring between China and the US sometime in the future.
ibENeZ <ibenez@stones.com>
Atlanta, GA USA - Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 10:53:15 (CDT)
Hello Robin I am cbyguo.I just receiveyour mail.Do you know the NATO bombed the Albania refugee in KOSOVO,but what did the NATO lied to the world.First they said they what they had bombed were the serb army,the second they said it was the serb fighter who carry such crime.the last they said that the scene was forged by serb and what they had bombed is another site.Now the fact had been the world.How did you think about your media. Why not say the Serb are doing to Kosovo what your country did to China in the 1840,1860 and 1900. How did your country get HONGKONG ?The west always own a special logel and use double standard what you judge the international affair.I don't like politics and never join in any kinds of political organization,I don't believe the communist,but I don't understand that you west look on the communist as the evil.When your country army invaded other country in history ,they also made a greatest crime as the robber ,the murderer and not disseminator of the civilization.
CBYGUO <cbyguo@ihw.com.cn>
fuzhou, China - Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 07:26:52 (CDT)
Hello my friend I am Chinese.I look for your email for several days.I know that your country are suffering from the bombing by NATO.I am very compassion and hate the NATO.I wish I cound fight against the NATO with you.All of Chinese support the yugoslavia .You won't alone.The victory belong to you,belong to brave,heroic people.I hope you can give more information and let us know the more detail around you. NATO go away !beat down Cliton.
cbyguo <cbyguo@ihw.com.cn>
FUZHOU, CHINA - Saturday, April 17, 1999 at 07:25:29 (CDT)
Dear Fuzhou in China. I think your media is completely controlled by your government and you do not know that the Serbs are doing to Kosovo what the Japanese did to China in the 1930's. Only NATO can stop this. I do not think you really want to go to war with America. Only 10% of Americans are bad just like only 10% of British or Chinese are bad. If you go to war with America you might kill some nice Americans or you might be killed yourself. Think of all those young American soldiers who died to try and freeing your country from Japan. All the Best to you and peace to you. from Mr Robin Pearce in England
Robin Pearce
UK - Friday, April 16, 1999 at 13:09:02 (CDT)
When I was student , shouted all the time Yankee Go Home. Even in this time I don't like american policy and people. But even though amecia's internatianal human barometer is depend on their concerns profit and loss, Milosevici and Serb army's Criminals should not be forgived.I visit some times Yugoslavia. I met many serbs. They are very kind people. But it is not means that serb's goverment can be pardoned regarding their criminals. I met some Albanian people. They are uncredible people. but It is not means that they can be genocided. Surely, serbs are more advanced people than ethnic albanians(my personal opinion) . but nobody can tramp on holy human right. Although the NATO's procedure and bombing Plan had some problems it cannot compare with Milosevici's criminal. Serb's army never cared if ethnic Albanian is armed or not when kill them.
cisan <carpatia@hanmail.net>
S.Korea - Friday, April 16, 1999 at 09:51:06 (CDT)
I want to fight against USA with serb.NATO is invader.beat down Cliton
cbyguo <cbyguo@ihw.com.cn>
FUZHOU, CHINA - Friday, April 16, 1999 at 05:01:56 (CDT)
I want to fight aganist USA with serd.NATO is invader
cbyguo <cbyguo@ihw.com.cn>
FUZHOU, CHINA - Friday, April 16, 1999 at 04:57:52 (CDT)
Dear Friend, there is now a chat site called KosovoChat. All discussions in regards to Kosovo are invited here, including the issue of NATO bombings on Yugoslavia, Slobodan Milosevic, the plight of ethnic Albanians, and anything at all associated with Kosovo. If you want to express your views live online, this is the place to go to. Please note, before you can chat you must sign up first (for free) and you will use this username and password to chat at any time you wish. Finally, the address is http://venus.beseen.com/chat/rooms/t/441514 Please note, although the details of this chat have recently been posted on search engines worldwide, you cannot be guaranteed anything. We hope that people whoever feel like expressing their views (any views) will meet at this site to chat. Thank you. Sincerely, A. Popovich.
Alexander Popovich <a.popovich@start.com.au>
Sydney, NSW Australia - Friday, April 16, 1999 at 03:29:48 (CDT)
blood does the public in West need to see before rising a voice? Or is it that serbian blood is different than albanian? Someone must explain to Americans that this is not a movie. Perhaps it's far away, but it is real. Of course this is just in case they know that their country is at war. Finally, I am wondering. Mr Blair and Clinton must have known that Milosevic is not the son of the devil, he's probably the devil himself. When they, so easily decided to widen the range of airstrikes, they should probably have taken into account the idea about human shields. They took the risk (for other nations of course) and we already count 100 deads in four days. Even if we accept that they took a risk, we know that they blew it up. IS THE INTERNATIONAL COURT GOING TO JUDGE THEM FOR THEIR MISTAKE? I am just wondering, already knowing the answer.
Vangelis <pyem@swansea.ac.uk>
Swansea, UK - Thursday, April 15, 1999 at 14:18:16 (CDT)
Pray for peace.
Alfiere <Nekronomikon@hotmail.com>
Milano, ITALY - Thursday, April 15, 1999 at 05:31:26 (CDT)
I am ashamed of being Serbian, after the genocide we commited in Bosnia and Croatia we don't deserve to hold on to Kosovo
Cedo
Melbourne, Vic Australia - Thursday, April 15, 1999 at 04:33:18 (CDT)
1. Name one time in history Nato invaded and took over a country. 2. WWW2 was fought against the Nazis for the same ethnic cleansing...why should any country be allowed to exterminate a human being because of their religious belief? 3. In all the refugees fleeing, where are the Serbs? Why aren't they fleeing? Can they really not notice whole towns missing? 4. Why is there no international press coverage allowed? Why does Milosovich dictate the news coverage and do you think he's telling you everything? 5. Does Milosovich really care about the Serbs, or his control to maintain power? 6. With a communist for a wife, what are the chances he cares about democracy? 7. If Serbs are forcing Albanians out of the country, and they are going, how are the Serbs then the victims in this? In the present time and place. The Germans are now against ethnic cleansing, but it is in their past. So regardless of the serbs past heroics towards us does that excuse their acceptance of ethnic cleansing by their leader Milosovich?
Sassy
- Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 14:24:40 (CDT)
To Vestna Serbia owns Kosovo ? It is clear that Serbia with it's present government is not fit to own a child's dummy let alone a country. Anyway, why should anyone own a country other than the people that live in it.
A Jones
UK - Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 14:19:05 (CDT)
It's terrible what is happening in Kosovo, and there isn't much what we can do about it then speculate who is right and who is wrong. I think it's very important that we pray God for a solution. That there will be no more killing. That the Serbs and Albanians can live in peace together in the future. Please, if we all pray for this, maybe the war can be put to an end, because I think there is no other solution.
Jolien <j.m.breider.st@ppsw.rug.nl>
Groningen, Holland - Wednesday, April 14, 1999 at 09:20:54 (CDT)
if you have history and how all developed , please send materials: We are a non-profit organization willing to help. Restore Hope Relief Int. 3816 Calle Cita Santa Barbara, Ca. 93110
tom matheson <matheson@sbceo.k12.ca.us>
santa barbara, ca USA - Sunday, April 11, 1999 at 13:37:27 (CDT)
Dangerous action by NATO. I hope the end of this century is not the end of all.
Cobble <cobblerandom@yahoo.com>
China - Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 22:08:33 (CDT)
I know NATO is killing.
Cobble <cobblerandom@hotmail.com>
China - Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 22:05:42 (CDT)
Why can't the Serbs and the Albanians live together, WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG
King
L.A., USA - Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 18:08:48 (CDT)
Hey Vesna, if Kosovo is so sacred to you, why are you in Australia? Think about it, what if the Australia wanted you to leave because you are a Serb, or any other race or religon. And, the reason why Mexico doesn't take Texas is because if a person from Mexico legally becomes a US citizen, they are welcome there!
Stanley
L.A., CA USA - Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 17:58:40 (CDT)
As a matter of fact Anon, both of Milo's parent commited suicide, first his Father and then his Mother eleven years later. Maybe it would be a good idea for Milo to follow in his parents footsteps. It would be nice if he would follow in Genral Tojo's of Japan!
Stanley
Los Angeles, USA - Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 17:39:15 (CDT)
It saddens me to see the home of my ancesters destroyed by bombs. It saddens me more to know that a mad man is running the country and convincing the Serbian people that he isn't doing the things he is doing. My grandfather was from Belgrade Serbia. My grandmother was Croatian. I feel sorry for the children in Serbia and Albania who have to live through this horror. Men should take note and try to be kinder to each other. for the person who said Milosovic shouldn't be compared to Hitler--compare him to whatever you want. Perhaps the Devil would be a good example. Dee
Dee Hendershot <ApopkaMyrt@aol.com>
Apopka, FL USA - Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 15:06:09 (CDT)
It's a blessing for Milosovic's parents that they died young, they never had to see what he became.
anon
USA - Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 12:25:53 (CDT)
MILO IS THE NEW HITLER. SERBIA NEEDS A WAKE UP CALL AND I THINK A FEW BOMBS MIGHT DO THE TRICK. MILO NEEDS TO SLEEP WITH FISH.
DAVE
L.A., CA USA - Saturday, April 10, 1999 at 02:50:25 (CDT)
clinton go away from yugoslavia
igor zdravkovic <igorz@madona.net>
Belgrade, 12 Yugoslavia - Friday, April 09, 1999 at 07:11:17 (CDT)
of you creatures that have floated to the top of the heap of sub human rapists and murdering excrement. Let me remind you that the serial jew killer "Saweniuk" from Belorus has been brought to justice in a British court after 57 years, so don't be too confident about your liberty in the long term. However at least you will be given you a trial and a warm prison cell and meals for the rest of your life, which is more than the innocent people you slaughtered got. There will be no safe place for you to hide and you will not be punished because you are a Serb, we have nothing against Serbs, you will be punished because you are common murderers and rapists and an affront to human beings whatever their creed or race. With Love from Dr Karadic (PHD in Psycopathology) Dr Karadic Serbia - Thursday, April 08, 1999 at 18:13:00 (CDT
Karadic <Karadic@insanity.co.cesspit>
Serbia - Thursday, April 08, 1999 at 18:32:09 (CDT)
USA and NATO are murderers, they are whited sepulchre.
gsj <gsj@990.net>
China - Tuesday, April 06, 1999 at 06:44:57 (CDT)
You Serbs are always the victims in your own eyes, never the victimisers! How sad for you to be so VERY blind! Please read Mark Djordjevic's comments a few comments down... this is how the serbs think! So sad! Then read Kevin's comments below this.... how very true! They always bring up "history". Does this History give them the right to butcher people... in their eyes I guess it does! These people call themselves Christian... there is NOTHING God like about them! Just evil people... Milosevic is some anti-christ, and the serbs are his blind followers. STOP this WAR YOU BASTARDS! Stop killing innocent people!
Dijana J <Dijana_J@hotmail.com>
Australia - Monday, April 05, 1999 at 18:19:59 (CDT)
I saw the corpses hung from the old bridge in Mostar And the mass graves on the eastside of the river in 1992 you murdering bastards, you directly targeted inocent people in your disgusting raign of terror.And now half of you still cant see whats going on. Do you really think NATO would be doing this for the fun of it? No this is being done because your President is an EVIL man who will stop at nothing to fulfill his own personal goals. Surely their must be a few Serb's with the guts to assasinate him, or is it only inocent women and children that you can do that to ? Don't bother sending me any E-mails telling me the history of Serbia and the sacred value of the area,because that is no excuse for GENOCIDE. When the ground troops go in we will find out the truth, just like in Bosnia.
kevin <crosschannelimports@compuserve.com>
Eastbourne, Sussex UK - Monday, April 05, 1999 at 15:14:11 (CDT)
BASICALLY ALL I WANT TO SAY IS NO-ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE ACCUSATIONS UNLESS THEY KNOW THE FULL HISTORY OF YUGOSLAVIA. PEOPLE MAY SEE SERBIAN PEOPLE AND THEIR LEADERS AS KILLERS AND THAT WE DONT CARE, BUT NO-ONE REALLY KNOWS HOW THE SERBS ARE SUFFERING TOO. IT IS EMPHASIZED HOW THE POOR REFUGEES ARE DOING. THESE REFUGEES HAVE COME TO OUR COUNTRY AS REFUGEES AND WERE SUPPORTED BY SERBS UNTIL NOW. THEY WERE GIVEN EVERYTHING FROM EDUCATION AND SUPPORT...BUT TO TAKE THE SERBIAN LAND..WILL NEVER HAPPEN. KOSOVO IS VERY SACRED TO THE SERBS AND THE ALBANIANS HAVE NO RIGHT TO EVEN ASK FOR THAT LAND. SO WHAT U SEE NOW IS WHY SERBS WILL FIGHT TILL THE VERY END TO KEEP THAT LAND AND YUGOSLAVIA TOGETHER. FOR AMERICA TO GET INVOLVED IS ANOTHER WAY OF STARTING WWIII. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO GET INVOLVED WHEN THEY DONT EVEN KNOW THE HISTORY. AN EXAMPLE IS LIKE GIVING TEXAS TO THE MEXICANS AND CALLING IT MEXICO. I KNOW 4 SURE CLINTON WILL NEVER ALLOW THAT...AND THATS WHY SERBS WONT EITHER. WE WILL ALL FROM AROUND THE WORLD SUPPORT THE SERBS, AS WE ARE ALL WE HAVE. FROM ONE OF THE MANY SERBS IN AUSTRALIA.
VESNA
sydney, Australia - Monday, April 05, 1999 at 01:58:41 (CDT)
Hey, Free Serbs, why don't you overthrow Milosevic? He's so bull to you! Please keep Yugoslavia be free of Milosevic's history & political strange & stupid handling of make-believe psychology on! Don't MAKE BELIEVE him! PLEASE KEEP YUGOSLAVIA FREE OF MILESOVIC!!!
Clay R. Patterson <panrin@lightspeed.net>
Santa Maria, CA USA - Monday, April 05, 1999 at 00:36:42 (CDT)
The Butcher of Belgrade has once again loosed the Four Horsemen to do his bidding. His well planned rape of Kosovo continues with brutal effiency, belieing any contention that it is a result of NATO attacks. It is now only a matter of time until, as in Bosnia before, the full horror comes to light and the mass graves are unearthed. War crimes, genocide, and crimes against Humanity are his tools, and we debate the use of ground forces. When will "Never again!" finally mean NEVER again?
Frank Kelley <fvkelley@home.com>
Woonsocket, RI USA - Sunday, April 04, 1999 at 09:05:31 (CDT)
really impressed to find such sites on the Net' - that is sites dedicated to democratizing Serbia. Serbia has long suffered under Milosevic's reign, and it will continue to unfortunately. In view of what is happening in Kosovo, and as a Christian, I support air strikes for a number of reasons. Firstly, as Christians,we all should be condemning these terrible crimes against humanities. Secondly, I actually believe that air strikes will provide impetus for change in Yugoslavia. That is, it will ease the way for organized pro-democracy groups to stage a coup and seize power from Milosevic. We all know that were such change to occur, it would only be for the betterment of all Yugoslavs and all neighbouring Slavs alike. I in fact went to Yugoslavia and provided as much funds as possible, during the 1996 Belgrade protests, for Milosevic to resign, but unfortunately, all our efforts proved only to be fruitless. I call upon all fellow Serbians, to look at this terrible situation more broadly, and to recognize that only change in Yugoslavia will be for the betterment for all. I invite any debates. Please email me to a.popovich@start.com.au Farewell, Alexander Popovich
Alexander Popovich <a.popovich@start.com.au>
Sydney, NSW Australia - Sunday, April 04, 1999 at 00:22:30 (CST)
I am afraid Serbia has no future! I along with many other NATO troops will soon dismember it, and they can only blame themselves.
Jeff <moosepass@hotmail.com>
PA USA - Saturday, April 03, 1999 at 21:13:44 (CST)
Serbia is a classic example of Nationalism run amuck. Judging by the history of the Serb people, it is apparent that the only form of government they will is allow is a "Total Dictatorship"! The idea of a free, open, ethnical diverse society simply is not in their way of thinking.
Richard <kstoad@msn.com>
Wichita, KS USA - Saturday, April 03, 1999 at 20:57:08 (CST)
My prayers go to the serbian people who seek a way out of the madness going on under Milosevic. My grand parents were Slavic, and I understand the troubles all these people have seen through the centuries.
William Watson <nv4t@aol.net>
Panama City, FL USA - Saturday, April 03, 1999 at 18:49:52 (CST)
We cannot imagine this madness that is happening. I cannot believe that the Yugo people stand behind this madman, and support this. We are going to boycott all products and services produced by this country. I have made it a campaign My wife being from the Ukraine, we have lost all respect for the Sloviac people.
Robert and Gail Duff <rwduff@worldnet.att.net>
Chandler, AZ USA - Saturday, April 03, 1999 at 14:11:16 (CST)
Our hearts and souls are with you.. Nods in respect. Be Careful
Gary kenmore <Lastguest@hotmail.com>
London, UK - Saturday, April 03, 1999 at 10:27:35 (CST)
To all af you, having goodwill! I support the action of NATO but I know that noone of us will stay innocent. In the name of the serbian peoople there is unbelievable slaughtering and genozid like the germans did at the III. Reich. We have to stop this with all forces we can use!!! We (the people of western europe) have to take part of responsibility for the balcan region to give the albanians, the bosniens, croatiens and also the serbs a chance for a brighter future. I hope there will soon happen a turnover at the top of the serbian government and society. I'm sure most of you serbian people are able to think of a future when different ethnic groups can live side by side or even together in peace!!! I am one of the young germans who have grown up in freedom and humanity. We are going along on the way of cooperation and reconcialation with all nations and people. I wish you a new beginning for your serbian society in freedom and pride as soon as possible. As soon as the war will end all of us are in duty to go on with real help for all men in the balcan region. Take care!
Ralf Eisenhauer <Ralf-Eisenhauer@t-online.de>
Germany - Saturday, April 03, 1999 at 05:44:10 (CST)
Nice to have found your website. I'm tired of chatting with "party line" Serbs. I'll be back to further explore your site on the weekend. Take care, John
john french <jf510@aol.com>
Walnut Creek, CA USA - Saturday, April 03, 1999 at 02:30:51 (CST)
We must remember that Milosovic is one of the last Stalinist left in the region. He is not a beleiver in democracy. He also has serious mental health issues running in his family. Both Parents Committed Suicide. He had his in-laws executed as spies. He was previously the President of the Communist Party, now he claims to be socialist. He was not elected this last time, and there were demonstrations against him. See Serbian Archives from Feb, 1997. at http://www.ddh.nl/fy/servia/ordrazb92/0502-1.html This Butcher of Belgrade must be stopped.
Johnette Van Dien <MSVanDien@aol.com>
IL USA - Friday, April 02, 1999 at 17:03:21 (CST)
I`m very worried about some comments,because some people are really the same as The killers!You must understand,the normal Serb soldiers MUST do what they have told to do, if not their own people will kill them!!! There are a lot of nice Serbian people,but it is the Politics again who made people believe in a leader,learn your history!!Propaganda kills your brains and you will believe it. Serb soldiers must stand up now,they MUST do a filthy job,turn your back to the cruel leaders and make peace! Look like ARKAN,he is known as a big criminal even in Holland he is wanted for robbery and murder! That persons making war not the normal soldiers!!! A lot of the Serb Officers are criminal not the soldiers!! Officers giving commands because after war they like to have the best jobs and a soldier get a lot of trouble!! POLITIC making war NOT normal people!!!! I hope the normal people win a war and not the Politicians!!
Hawer <hawer30@hotmail.com>
Amsterdam, - Nethetherlands - Friday, April 02, 1999 at 14:14:58 (CST)
Being a member of the opposition for a long time I must say that your main goal is obviously not democratization and liberation of Serbia. Additionaly, being Serbian I must kindly thank you for your attemt to help, but this kind of help is not needed. Please, do leave us alone and we will be just fine.
Snowwhite <rajsic@EUnet.yu>
USA - Friday, April 02, 1999 at 10:27:39 (CST)
Having strong cultural interest in Yugosalvia for the last 25 years (though I never visited this country), and being able to read in Serbian and Albanian, I modestly believe that I can have an opinion on what's happening now. I call these bombardments a senseless, stupid and barbaric aggression. I doubt the Serbian people will be broken by these "smart" bombs (which explode, somehow, near Sofia, Bulgaria); I don't believe they can do any good to the Albanian Kosovars, in whose name the attacks are carried out. I have very few sympathy to President Milosevic, but calling him "Hitler" is an insult to one's intelligence. Similarly, any comparison of Serbian treatment of Kosovars to the Holocaust is an attempt to trivialize a genocide. What is actually happening is a serious ethnic conflict with deep roots in the past, which should be solved with much patience, open-mindness, knowledge, but not by means which only succeed to make the solution more remote.
Dr. Dan Shapira <DShapira@h2.hum.huji.ac.il>
Jerusalem, Israel - Friday, April 02, 1999 at 09:38:04 (CST)
I'll try to be objective. We all know that President Milosevic is a nationalist and he is more a dictator rather than a democratic president. We now see all those people been kicked out from their homes in Kosovo. DIDN'T NATO KNOW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN????? They know who Milosevic is and the way he governs. What happens now in Kosovo was well expected to happen. Admire the result. The entire Yugoslavia is being bombed, serbian nationalism is higher than ever, Milosevic is more powerful than ever. Albanians are treated worse than ever. Serb civilians have no other choice than becoming nationalists in support of their country. Can you blame a proud nation for doing so? Congratulations, well done. Thanks to wwp (world-wide-pimps) peace is on its way to Kosovo. Go and tell them now to stop hating one each other and live together. I forgot. The TV program in West has the following structure: Movies: There are the bad guys and the good guys. The good ones always win without losses. News: The bad guys Serbians victimize the good guys, Albanians. The other good guys, NATO, are involved. And because no losses are allowed, Milosevic has to give the soldiers back. Next: Movies. The bad guys.... The population of Kosovo is no more than two millions. Kurds are twenty millions. Where the hell NATO has been?? Simply, you can expect us to believe that Bill Clinton is doing what he's doing because he is a nice man. Where are the troopers to protect Albanians? They are the good guys, no losses are allowed.... My sympathy to ALL people in Yugoslavia.
Vangelis <pyem@swansea.ac.uk>
Swansea, UK - Friday, April 02, 1999 at 07:04:42 (CST)
NATO is doing the right thing. The world cannot stand by and allow this slaughter to continue. I have wondered how the Serbs as "Christians" can do this sort of thing. As a born again Christian, I believe that Christians are supposed to be Christ-like. People who can tollerate the things that are happening in Serbia are Cultural Christians, much like many American Christians, they are caught up in ritual worship. I believe Christ will not recognize these people as his on judgement day. The sooner NATO puts stop to the killing of innocents, the better
Jeff <moosepass@hotmail.com>
PA USA - Friday, April 02, 1999 at 06:21:30 (CST)
has one thing in mind,and that is to destroy every ehtnic albanian living there. He is commiting genocide and the thoughtless idiot needs to be stopped.
William N. Gager <bassnbill@flinet.com>
Boynton Beach, Fl USA - Thursday, April 01, 1999 at 16:02:32 (CST)
I have found this web-site for the first time today which I anticipated to be used by people with a high standard of intelligence but, it appears that anti-Serb propaganda is also at work from the limited intelligence in the western countries as well. Floria(?) the Croat obviously cannot string a sentence together, which is expected as it(?) lives in the USA. A quality point from Robin Pearce saying that good old England stood alone against Hitler, not quite true is it Robin, as the Serbs stood alone against the Nazis with the help of the Croat Ustache (The west and all the experts have conveniently forgot this issue). What amazes me about the people in the western world is how blinkered they all seem to be about the current crisis, the west backed Tito after the second world and created the Yugoslav state, and now through Nato (and Croats/Bosnian Muslims who, I'm sure conducted themselves to the rights of the Geneva Cobenvention in the previous civil wars) want to destroy the federal Yugoslav state. This is the first and last time I will vist this site as nobody world wide has offered a quality argument. One last point it was good to see at least some comments from fellow orthodox brethren, keep the spirit burning.
Mark Djordjevic <mdj@bkk.co.uk>
Coventry, UK - Thursday, April 01, 1999 at 09:34:56 (CST)
why can't everyone just get along???????? it's not that hard....
akasha <apocalytpticvisions@netscape.net>
Denver, CO USA - Thursday, April 01, 1999 at 06:58:34 (CST)
Someone has told that it is wery easy kill unarmed people. But when come time to get face to face with guns it is going to get really different. Someones have no other to do but fight because they know that themselves are losers of system. This message is comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jubei <Jubei@artic.net>
east, Ru - Thursday, April 01, 1999 at 04:18:58 (CST)
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY... ARKAN is some psycho killing machine. No.. not killing, more like slaughtering, butchering machine... SOMEONE PLEASE KILL HIM!
Dijana <Dijana@hotmail.com>
Australia - Thursday, April 01, 1999 at 00:57:47 (CST)
IS IT TRUE THAT BUY 2000 EVERYONE IN SERBIA WILL HAVE A PIECE OF STEALTH BOMBER ? HAVE YOU SEEN "ARKEN" ON TELLY, WHAT A TOSSER. GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER, GIVE MOLOSOVIC A HAIRCUT !
KEVIN <CROSS CHANNEL IMPORTS @ COMPUSERVE.COM>
EASTBOURNE, UK - Thursday, April 01, 1999 at 00:28:06 (CST)
These are sad days for all of us I think. Although I support NATO's actions against the Serbian military, we should all pray that innocent people are kept unharmed. It is necessary to protect the Albanian people, as well as all people of the world who strive to be free of dictatorships. It would be a good thing if Kosovo were granted statehood and Serbs and Albanian people could live side by side and grow from that. All governments have their faults, you should all strive to empower men or women of honor to lead your respective countries. Life should be about making every world-citizen comfortable in life. Five hundred years from now, perhaps the peoples of this world will learn that we are all one people and one family. Then perhaps peace will prevail. As long as we put up with THUGS and POWER-HUNGRY rulers, or elected officials, War will be ever with us. May all those be safe that deserve to be............
Rick <jorick@greenapple.com>
OH USA - Wednesday, March 31, 1999 at 00:21:07 (CST)
every bomb that hits them i and my fellow english citizens are repulsed by the way the serbs treat people like cattle you shall pay one way or another and the uk will stand solid with nato as its people support them-the silent majority dont wail and protest like the left wingers looking for a cause to support we shall win....russia supports its blood stained cousin but it is a spent corrupt country so we ignore it.
gypsyuk
england - Tuesday, March 30, 1999 at 15:38:30 (CST)
If Molosovic dosen't stop the killing of the innocent kosovo peoples, we will have world war 3 on our hands by July 99. Molosovic is the third anti-christ and deserves all the nato is giving him. I just wish we would send in the ground troops and help protect the innocent, before milosovic kills them all. Today in prestina 20 teachers where exicuted in front of there students for nothing more than being kosovan, how can any one support molosovic, its a mystery to me.
Dave B
England - Tuesday, March 30, 1999 at 09:09:13 (CST)
I think you Serbian mother f***ers should all die for the s*** you have done in Croatia, Bosnia, and now Kosova.
Floria Gregovic <Floria@altavista.net>
Phoenix, ax USA - Monday, March 29, 1999 at 23:04:42 (CST)
Dijana wrote a real good bit about SERBS ( a few messages down )if you want a look. Some of us have seen first hand the crap you Bastards dished out in Croatia & Bosnia. "Robin's bit" just a couple down says it all.
Kevin Butler <cross channel imports@compuserve.com>
eastbourne, sussex england - Monday, March 29, 1999 at 22:55:37 (CST)
To the Orthodox Christian Serbs and their Clerics I put the in paraphrase the question Christ asked " What will it profit the Serbs to gain Kosovo if they loose their soul" I think they may have lost is already. For the Serbs violate all the teachings of Christ.
John Bednarski <pamjohn@gte.net>
Bellevue, WA USA - Monday, March 29, 1999 at 16:15:59 (CST)
In a healthy society, murderers and rapists are locked up. But in Serbia they give them guns and positions of power, just like in Nazi Germany. Those Chinese, Russian and Greek people and any others who disagree with the Nato response are thinking politically and not morally. They have forgotten that morality transcends politics. They should take the point of view of impartial human beings and not as any particular kind of national. Anyone who argues against the NATO military action to stop the Serb Butchers in Kosovo would presumably also have argued against the Allied military action that liberated the world from the Nazi tyrany and holocaust. Such people are advocating hell on earth. Prime Minister Chamberlain talking to Hitler in 1939 never achieved anything. While time was wasted talking, the slaughter continued and evil gained a stronger hold. In Rwanda, a million people were slaughtered while UN bureaucrats sat in 5-star hotels and did little more than talk. Talking to Milosovic has achieved nothing and since no Serb seems brave enough to assassinate Milosovic, there is no alternative left but military action. At least some Germans had the guts on several occasions to attempt to assassinate Hitler. Without England standing alone against Hitler in 1939-41 we would all now be fifty years into a thousand year Reich ! When I hear people's objection to NATO,s stance, perhaps that is what the human race deserves. "The Tragedy is not the brutality of evil but the silence of good people." Martin Luther King We should thank our military personnel who have the courage to do more than just talk. Robin Pearce - England
Robin Pearce - England
USA - Monday, March 29, 1999 at 11:23:36 (CST)
Hi Serbians, tell me why you had slovenian, croatian, bosnian and now albanian terrorists to cope with. We don't have any in free europe... What we call opposition, you name terrorist. Who's terrorising who by the way???
eric
bel - Monday, March 29, 1999 at 10:34:44 (CST)
Does the Serbs know why Nato are bombing their military instalations?
Jonny Quest <jonnys99@hotmail.com>
Oslo, Norway - Monday, March 29, 1999 at 10:01:51 (CST)
Hmmm - nice one Serbs - shooting teachers in front of their school. Sick, you are really sick. I hate war, killing and fighting but those responsible for the deaths of innocent Albanians deserve to die and I hope they will rot in hell. STOP THE GENOCIDE YOU STUPID TWATS!!!!!!!!
Johnny Goo <jwr.davis@byinternet.com>
Plymouth, UK - Monday, March 29, 1999 at 09:49:13 (CST)
Well, Well, Well..... now we see it hu! Finally.... I've been waiting for this day for years! What goes around comes around.... my dad was right! Finally, after the years of bombing Croatia and Bosina/Hercegovina, after the years of serbian oppression, of their atrocities, of their barbarian ethnic cleansing... FINALLY BOMBS FALL ON BEOGRAD. I watch the news everynight, seeing all the Serb demonstrations around the world, how easily you f***ers forget what you did to so many people in Croatia, and Bosnia/Hercegovina. How fast you dismiss all the suffering YOU caused, I don't blame Slobodan Milosevic alone... NO, because without the peoples support HE wouldn't be in power, no matter what you say! Without the backing of the Serbian people, there would of been NO war Croatia and Bosnia/Herc. Don't you see.... what goes around comes around! It's good to see, for now the Serbs will know what WE felt! Although NATO will NOT set up "rape camps" for the serbian women and children, NATO will not butcher innocent people INTENTIONALLY! Go to hell all you SERBIAN bastards! For those serbs who want peace... freedom... well... suffer for it as we did. No, I don't mean that... I'm VERY angry, but I guess NOT all serbs are scum...???... who knows??? I haven't met a good one yet, but for those serbs who are fair and really want peace... good luck in your mission! I don't want to see innocent people suffer! That has happened for too long, and even though I beleive serbs deserve to suffer more than anyone.... I don't wish that fate on anyone who is innocent. I don't want to see children dying etc... WE ARE NOT LIKE SERBS, we want JUSTICE.. that's all!
Dijana J <Dijana_J@hotmail.com>
- Sunday, March 28, 1999 at 23:09:40 (CST)
Hi, More power to you Serbian people. Don't let imperialism in the garb of peace to let over-run Serbia. This history will justify your cause. Don't let the spirit of nationalism die. This is second round of Ottowan and make sure that this time, it is for the last time.
Yudhvir Singh <ysmallik@hotmail.com>
mn USA - Sunday, March 28, 1999 at 19:30:28 (CST)
Dear Serbs, show one more time how to respond to BARBARIANS. Lets hope that some country (Russia ?) will supply you with the hardware needed to (at least) defend yourselfs.
Th. OIKONOMIDIS
Cyprus - Saturday, March 27, 1999 at 15:37:52 (CST)
EVERY TIME CLINTON PUTS HIS "DICK" AWAY, HE HAS TO BOMB SOMEONE. GIVE HIM SOME VIAGRA, THEN WE MIGHT HAVE PEACE. KEEP YOUR HEADS DOWN IT WILL ALL BE OVER SOON. "HE CAN'T KEEP IT UP FOR LONG AT HIS AGE" WHY DID SARHA TELL YOU LOT TO GROW UP?
KEVIN BUTLER <CROSSCHANNELIMPORTS@COMPUSERVE.COM>
EASTBOURNE, SUSSEX ENGLAND - Saturday, March 27, 1999 at 02:20:03 (CST)
I SAW SOME ETHNIC CLENSING IN MOSTAR 1993, BITS OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE PLACE. HOW CAN SO CALLED SIVILIZED PEOPLE DO THAT TO ONE ANOTHER? WHEN WILL IT END? DO SOMTHING ABOUT MALOSOVICH SOON. BEFORE HE f***S IT UP FOR EVERYONE. KEVIN
KEVIN BUTLER <CROSSCHANNELIMPORTS@COMPUSERVE.COM>
EASTBOURNE, SUSSEX UK - Saturday, March 27, 1999 at 01:50:00 (CST)
To all Serbian people . . .Unite ! We are all joined by blood . . . . The blood which is being spilled as we speak . . . . in the ridiculous name of American 'peace' . . . That is waging war on our countrymen . . . Killing our women and children because we would not surrender our honor . . . And sign a treaty - not written for our country but for the capatalist entrepreneurs who rape our souls and leave us without dignity . . . We fight and die . . . for HONOR . . . We should not be told how to delegate our country's policies anymore than we would dare to delegate to the U.S. their business - say, if perhaps Texas was to free itself from the States and choose to be a part of Mexico. Should we then bomb Texas until it changed it's mind ?????? Ridiculous . . . . We must put a stop to this insanity . . . . Our comments do help !!!!!!
Floria Gregovic <Floria@altavista.net>
Phoenix, az USA - Friday, March 26, 1999 at 20:15:21 (CST)
We are ALL with you.If you want something from us (like protest at some wb sites or to send messages to other links)let us know. It's our OBLIGATION to help you.We feel you as BROTHERS.
Kiriakos Kiriakopoulos <kiriakos@mailcity.com>
Pirgos Elias, GREECE - Friday, March 26, 1999 at 16:15:31 (CST)
hay zhive vil'na Yugoslaviya
alik <kunia@alice.ukma.kiev.ua>
Kiev, Ukraine - Friday, March 26, 1999 at 09:14:40 (CST)
Peter <pete@dfd.com>
Anywhere - Thursday, March 25, 1999 at 16:32:12 (CST)
God Bless all my friends at JAT in Belgrade. I am sorry it has come to this. Let's hope it ends soon. Peace.
Mike Garland <GarlandMJ@bigfoot.com>
UK - Thursday, March 25, 1999 at 12:39:08 (CST)
i THINK YOU SHOULD ALL GROW UP
SARAH WHITE <SARAH.WHITE@NET.COM.UK>
ENGLAND - Thursday, March 25, 1999 at 09:59:08 (CST)
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Yuri <Nucko@flashmail.com>
Russia - Wednesday, March 24, 1999 at 16:09:14 (CST)
of the Soros group. As a Serbian Nationalist, i am apalled by the writings of your people. Pro-western sympathies along with derogeratory comments directed at the Serb national idea, does not impress me. Although i have no sympathies whatsoever towards Milosevic, I think that you prove to be a worse option.
Karadjordje
USA - Thursday, March 18, 1999 at 11:50:01 (CST)
keeping up with all the events since the the breakup of Yugoslavia and i can clearly tell that your magazine is run by Croats pretending to be Serbs..........
robert valentine <rob123@hotmail.com>
california, ca USA - Friday, March 12, 1999 at 13:22:57 (CST)
to find a place I can read about my country.Great site!
Phillip Petrovic <Phillipmp@aol.com>
SanDiego, Ca USA - Friday, February 19, 1999 at 17:23:27 (CST)
are awesome. Pozdrav od D.S.(CLEVELAND)
Damir Simic <dsimic7104@aol.com>
Cleveland, OH USA - Monday, November 02, 1998 at 21:09:29 (CST)
Bravo za Borbu, Te legraf i Danas
Dejan Novacic <novacic@iol.ie>
Dublin, Ireland - Friday, October 23, 1998 at 06:07:28 (CDT)
I VOTE FOR FREEDOM OF SPEACH, FOR FREEDOM OF PRESS, AND FOR PERSONAL FREEDOM OF EVERY HUMAN BEING TO LIVE WHERE HE WANTS AND HOW HE WANTS
gordana ruzic <goga@leman.dn.ua>
DONETSK, UKRAINE - Thursday, October 22, 1998 at 06:04:12 (CDT)
Odlicno
Stefan <stef28480@yahoo.com>
USA - Saturday, October 03, 1998 at 23:41:38 (CDT)
I enjoyed freeseria.net site. Keep up with good work. Suzana
Suzana Malenovic <suznet@hwcn.org>
Hamilton, CA Canada - Wednesday, September 30, 1998 at 14:58:56 (CDT)
I am a very proud serb and allway's will, keep up the good work!! (Jerkovats)
Dejan Petrov
Utica, mi USA - Thursday, September 24, 1998 at 18:28:20 (CDT)
concerned about the situation in the former Yugoslavia and appreciate another news source such as yours.
Shay Simmons <shaila.simmons.h4xw@statefarmcom>
Bloomington, IL USA - Friday, September 04, 1998 at 11:39:38 (CDT)
Hi Serbnet. I'm serbain and proud to be one. Today was the first day that I found your magazine. I really enjoy reading it. Keep up the good work!
Dejana Vukobratovic <diane.vukobratovic@royalbank.com>
Stoney Creek, ON Canada - Wednesday, August 26, 1998 at 07:33:36 (CDT)

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